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    Paying tax on ground rent

    Hello good people,

    I have posted on LL before, but not for a while. I wanted to ask, been a P.A.Y.E person all my working life, but having purchased the freehold to the building containing my flat, which I live in, and another leasehold flat, which is rented out by the other leaseholder, I am wondering what happens about being taxed on ground rent.

    The ground rent at present is £75 p.a. Each. Obviously I cannot pay myself so it comes down to the ground rent I may get from the other leaseholder. First he flatly refused to pay me any. Then he did but the cheque bounced. That was back in 2012/13. Now he has phoned me to ask if I can send him the g.r requests for the last couple of payments. (????)

    Anyway, not sure what he is up to, BUT, with all the hysteria surrounding tax at the moment, what do I do about receiving this amount of ground rent and paying tax on it? I have paid over the last couple of years for things like repointing, plastering, roof maintenance, gutter clearing etc, none of which he has contributed to.

    Does that have any impact on things? If anyone could give me a rough idea of what I need to do or who I need to contact that would be really helpful. Have searched on here but not found anything that helps.

    Many thanks.

    W

    #2
    Hi again,

    Have just seen a previous posting from January last year in reply to a guy who hadn't declared a very small amount of income from letting a property out for four years. The reply was to the effect that any income below £2500 a year could be declared to HM who could simply adjust the PAYE code for that person to take into account any vat they needed to pay. (I have actually seen this myself on HM website). I know it's only £75.00 p.a. in this case (x2 years) IF he pays me, but is that the way to do it please? That's if of course it's worth declaring anything as all the various expenses I've had would wipe out any amount of £75's he might pay me!!

    Thanks

    W.

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      #3
      Yes, it is possible for "small" amounts of rental income to be included in your PAYE Coding.

      I suggest you contact HMRC. I would not be suprised if they were not that interested due to the potential minimal loss of tax.

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        #4
        OK thanks for replying, I will give them a ring and hope I get someone who got out of bed the right side this morning.

        Thanks,

        W

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          #5
          The other flat owner may be planning to sell and has to get his ground rent arrears cleared to remove any obstruction to a sale

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            #6
            That's a point, I had wondered if he was trying to get matters sorted out for some reason, that could well be it. He put his tenants rent up recently, maybe trying to make it more attractive to a new buy to let owner....hmmm.

            Well I've sent the requests off, one for each outstanding year, so we wait and see. I don't trust him any further than I can throw him. And I've contacted HMRC, spoke to a very nice lady who sounded like everyone's favourite aunty.

            Yes you can just ring them, tell them about any extra "income" and they will either alter your tax code to compensate, or send you a payment slip to pay the extra tax on.

            It seems you can only get through on their "help" line if you ring before 10am, otherwise it appears to be set so it cuts you off, just a few seconds after asking you to remain on the line...........she did apologise, bless her.

            Thanks Gordon.

            W

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