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    Idiotic Aerial Erector

    I live in a place where it is difficult to get Radio 2 on FM. (DAB is completely useless here.) For several years after I moved here, I used the FM outputs from the existing cable boxes, and the reception was brilliant. Sadly they stopped this last year, and since then I have had to put up with a tape aerial. Sometimes reception was so poor, I listened on my computer instead.

    However, today I decided to get an FM aerial put on the chimney. The installer asked me which stations I wanted, and I told him I was only bothered about Radio 2.

    He quoted £130+ vat & beavered away for about 45 minutes. Finally he came in to tune my receiver. What a disappointment. It was almost as hissy as with my tape aerial. It turns out the guy had put up one of those circular omnidirectional aeirals, that do not point in any particular direction.

    I asked how much to change it for a directional aerial. He said it would be £15, but if he did not think there was any improvement it would cost a further £30 for his labour.

    I told him I would pay him for what he'd done but I was not happy. He said 'There is another option'. He could take it down and I need pay him nothing. I said 'We'll do that then.'

    While the guy was packing up, I mused that he had now done an hour's work for nothing, whereas if he had waived the inevitable £30 for subjective improvements he would have had £145 less the cost of the aerial.

    I guess it is his employer who actually bears the cost of an hour's labour in vain.

    #2
    Ain'cha got Sky (take the audio outputs from the back & shove it up yr hifi..) or Freeview??

    Finding anyone these days you understands analogue aerials - challenging!!

    Radio 2 eh!
    I am legally unqualified: If you need to rely on advice check it with a suitable authority - eg a solicitor specialising in landlord/tenant law...

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      #3
      Relax James find another one.

      He's out of pocket not you and you now know what you need, perhaps one of those combination jobs with both the directional antenna and the twin bands below it.
      Based on the information posted, I offer my thoughts.Any action you then take is your liability. While commending individual effort, there is no substitute for a thorough review of documents and facts by paid for professional advisers.

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        #4
        Thanks guys. I have someone coming on Wednesday to put a directional aerial up for me. Of course, now I need to know which transmitter to point it at.

        (Yes, I know logic says to point it at the closest one to me.)

        However, has anyone noticed when driving into London on the M3 listening to Radio 2, the sound suddenly gets a lot better around Camberley? I guess that the transmitter it finds there has more modern circuitry than elsewhere.

        My car radio does not show what frequency it is tuned to, only the station. Does anyone know how I can find out where these more modern transmitters are located, in order to try pointing my aerial at them?

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          #5
          Originally posted by JK0 View Post
          ...............

          ........... Does anyone know how I can find out where these more modern transmitters are located, in order to try pointing my aerial at them?
          http://www.bbc.co.uk/reception/transmitters/radio/

          might help...
          I am legally unqualified: If you need to rely on advice check it with a suitable authority - eg a solicitor specialising in landlord/tenant law...

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            #6
            Originally posted by JK0 View Post
            Does anyone know how I can find out where these more modern transmitters are located, in order to try pointing my aerial at them?
            This is where the TV transmitters are located.

            http://www.bbc.co.uk/reception/transmitters/tv/

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              #7
              Originally posted by theartfullodger View Post
              Thanks Artful. Well I think I know why that horizontal hoop aerial was no good now. You guessed it, my local transmitter is vertically polarised.

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                #8
                OMG, I've had another one.

                My TV aerial suffered in the winter winds, and one of the chimney lashings failed, so it was hanging at an angle. As this aerial was here when I moved here in 2005, I decided it was time for a new one.

                Trying to avoid the previous jokers, I looked in Thomson Local for someone else, and got connected to a call centre in Yorkshire. They took my details and sent a young man over yesterday afternoon. He showed me his brochure, and said a standard aerial would be fine here, which I accepted, and paid him £150 for.

                Tonight, trying to watch Corrie, the picture kept pixellating. Asking the box for 'Info', it tells me the signal strength is 1% and the signal quality is 49%.

                I have stopped the cheque.

                Why are these guys such bozos?

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                  #9
                  After changing the aerial did you get you TV to re-scan?
                  I also post as Mars_Mug when not moderating

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Moderator2 View Post
                    After changing the aerial did you get you TV to re-scan?
                    Thanks Andy. Yeah I tried that during the adverts, but it made no difference.

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                      #11
                      You should not have let him leave without checking the signal.

                      If its a house just put up a satellite dish yourself on a ladder, or a post in the garden and buy a cheap box on ebay. We have a metal post on the shed with the sky one a eutelsat one and one I am not supposed to have ( no its not porn jsut one that occasionally broadcasts messages to servicemen and tells you to be all that you can be )..... its easy to fix in all weathers.
                      Based on the information posted, I offer my thoughts.Any action you then take is your liability. While commending individual effort, there is no substitute for a thorough review of documents and facts by paid for professional advisers.

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                        #12
                        Thanks LHA.

                        Does anyone know what level a desirable signal strength would be? I have searched & searched online, but everyone seems to be strangely reticent about this.

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                          #13
                          Resolved.

                          Okay, well we got to the bottom of this just now. The aerial installed last week was pointing half way between London & Southern, so was not getting a good signal from either of them. I now have signal strength of 37%. Horay!

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by JK0 View Post
                            Thanks LHA.

                            Does anyone know what level a desirable signal strength would be? I have searched & searched online, but everyone seems to be strangely reticent about this.
                            Installers have a meter for such things,and are not going to giove up trade secrets.


                            if you know the location of your local aerial and get is coordinates on google maps,and yours, & its a simple bit of trigonometry to work out the general direction ( but then I got top marks in my land surveying course ) with a compass.

                            But in the absence of that its trial and error using some of the "lower power stations" like Drama or Dave on freeview as for whatever reason their multiplex signal is weaker than say the Beeb. If they tune in then you are ok.

                            that's why as sat dishes publish their angle of elevation and longitude its much easier with a compass and protractor. Ours is in a scaffold pole into the ground with faux vegetation on it and run in plastic conduit underground took not a lot of time and when it stormy etc its dead easy to adjust or repair. The LNB is multi headed if you need several outlets unless you can get your hands on a stacker.
                            Based on the information posted, I offer my thoughts.Any action you then take is your liability. While commending individual effort, there is no substitute for a thorough review of documents and facts by paid for professional advisers.

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