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    Ive been a bit of a chump this evening.... was at some red lights with police car next to me and saw the lights turn green and moved off. Then realised that it was in fact the next set of lights 80- yds on that had turned green and not my set! Yikes!!!

    Got pulled out and the policeman said he wont give me a caution as the road was busy and I could have caused a serious accident so will get a court summons in the post.

    I appreciate I did wrong but if a car was coming it would of beeped his horn and then I would have realised I jumped the lights.

    Any words of wisdom for me to take to court? Obviously my job depends on my having my licence etc etc.

    Had just been for a lovely spa day in Bath courtesy of him indoors as well so a bad end to a fab day!

    #2
    http://www.nopenaltypoints.co.uk/RunningaARedLight.html

    Ho hum, could have happened to many of us.

    In London, early evening, neh-naw, neh-naw of Ambulance & blue flashing lights - I was blocking him @ lights so I move forward & into yellow-check-box.. couple of weeks later got (IIRC) £100 fine... and there appeared to appeal options... Bummer..
    I am legally unqualified: If you need to rely on advice check it with a suitable authority - eg a solicitor specialising in landlord/tenant law...

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      #3
      No offer of an FPN?

      Was there any danger caused to anyone else? FWIW you won't lose your licence over a red ATS. Even WDC & A does not get a ban straight off.

      Did police fill out a book taking all your details or a "ticket", 200mm x 100mm ish sheet of paper?

      What did you say when he asked you about why you did what you did? Did he caution you before putting any questions?

      pm
      Before acting on forum advice, you may wish to consult an expert, someone who has all the relevant facts, and who accepts liability for their advice.

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        #4
        NO offer of fixed notice due to busy road and time of day (dark?), there was def nothing coming (could only come from the left and I looked first as people always go through last minute.

        Police just had their little note book and cautioned me and then said I would get a summons through the post.

        I said I saw the light turn green and then as soon as I went through them I realised it was not my set and thats all.

        Ive been driving over 20 years and only had speeding points before (got 6 at the mo).

        whats WDC & A mean?

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          #5
          without due care and attention.

          pm
          Before acting on forum advice, you may wish to consult an expert, someone who has all the relevant facts, and who accepts liability for their advice.

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            #6
            driving without due care - momentary lack of concentration at low speed etc - 3-4 points and a fine based on income so you should remain under the totters 12 though you are coming close!
            Unshackled by the chains of idle vanity, A modest manatee, that's me

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              #7
              Get that solicitor who defends the footballers "Mr Loophole" You were stationery at a set of lights. The flashing lights of the Police Car blinded you from seeing the lights nearest to you so you saw a green light and proceeded foward.

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                #8
                Can you outline what they did from the moment they pulled you over, did they get out of their car or conduct the process though the windows, as it were? Did they take all your details, issue you with a form to produce your documents at a police station within 7 days like they do in "The Bill" or "Z Cars"?

                pm
                Before acting on forum advice, you may wish to consult an expert, someone who has all the relevant facts, and who accepts liability for their advice.

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                  #9
                  Any words of wisdom for me to take to court? Obviously my job depends on my having my licence etc etc.
                  That would be mitigation for totting up purposes (hardship to family etc). You would get the points but may avoid the ban.

                  I'm not sure what the corresponding system is for a single offence, but you need the right advice, and quickly (deadlines etc).

                  Try the forums at http://www.pepipoo.com/ for more detailed suggestions.

                  ML
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                  Refer Mad Regulators to Arkell vs Pressdram.

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                    #10
                    It isn't that difficult. Totters need 12 points so our hero is safe. You could contest the process (abuse of process) if things were not done 100% right. You could also mitigate by explaining how and why it happened. All that this does is help the magistrates decide how many points and how high a fine (whether to go for the lower or upper end of the range). Most important thing - go to the hearing. Guilty pleas by letter are read out and taken into consideration but you will be given more time and a longer hearing by going!
                    Unshackled by the chains of idle vanity, A modest manatee, that's me

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by islandgirl View Post
                      It isn't that difficult. Totters need 12 points so our hero is safe. You could contest the process (abuse of process) if things were not done 100% right. You could also mitigate by explaining how and why it happened. All that this does is help the magistrates decide how many points and how high a fine (whether to go for the lower or upper end of the range). Most important thing - go to the hearing. Guilty pleas by letter are read out and taken into consideration but you will be given more time and a longer hearing by going!

                      Thats interesting as some sites I have read mentioned that the fine/points could likely be less if I am given the option to plead guilty by post as I am not using up court time?

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by property mongrel View Post
                        Can you outline what they did from the moment they pulled you over, did they get out of their car or conduct the process though the windows, as it were? Did they take all your details, issue you with a form to produce your documents at a police station within 7 days like they do in "The Bill" or "Z Cars"?

                        pm
                        Thanks, as soon as I realised I did wrong I pulled over even before their lights came on. I pulled up indicators on, put down the window, PC came over asked me to turn engine off and put keys on dash. He asked me If I knew why I was pulled over, I replied yes and apologised and explained about looking at the other set of lights. He then asked me to get out of the car and sit in the back of his vehicle. He then asked me if I was local to which I replied yes and then he said I should know better than I know the roads.

                        He asked me if had had a drink to which I replied no, then asked me full name, address etc in car (made me laugh as all the info was coming through to the other PC at the same time!). He then said due to the circumstances of it being a busy road and dimpsy (It was 1915 hours so dark not dimpsy (whatever that word is!)), he was not going to caution me and then read me my rights, explained what would happen. Asked to see my licence (which i then went and got).

                        That was it.

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                          #13
                          Have there been any changes in streetlighting (cuts etc) which may have confused you?

                          ML
                          Refer Mad Regulators to Arkell vs Pressdram.

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                            #14
                            Hi Poppy,

                            Was it an unfamiliar road? Could you argue that the layout was confusing?

                            I know you are willing to 'take your punishment', but have you considered what effect 9 points will have on your insurance premium?

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                              #15
                              No the road was the same as it always has been so just been a muppett.

                              Re insurance, not really an issue as am self-employed and vehicles are insured via block policy at work.

                              @midlands - Im always confused so no excuse there!

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