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    Tent city

    This topic isn't exactly 'less serious' but doesn't fit into any other forum.

    I've commented several times on my fear that the UK will develop tent cities and my fear seems to be becoming a reality.

    I had a phone call yesterday from a man with either a Polish or Romanian accent. He was living in a tent, locally. He'd lost his job due to covid and was now living in a tent. He had no job and no money so I couldn't help him. He wasn't claiming any benefits either.

    He was also asking for a bank reference - no idea what one of those is. I wasn't sure if he was wanting an address to get a bank account.

    I asked him if he had any friends he could stay at but he said he didn't have any.

    I told him to contact the local council, although I don't know what they can do for him.

    I know one person in a tent is hardly a tent city but there must be lots more EU men (and women) who've lost their jobs and the roof over their heads.

    What would you have done if this phone call had come to you?



    #2
    No job, no money, not a British citizen, probably came in illegaly, I would tell him her, Not interested, and no info given to them.

    The Spanish army has been drafted in after a mass invasion of illegal immigrants in last few days, enter through Ceuta, the Spanish autonomous city on the north coast of Africa, Moroccan guards stood and watched at least 5000 in the last 24hrs have invaded the region and head towards central Spain.
    and now on their way to the UK for free 4 star hotel accomodation AND they are given a free mobile phone.
    You wont find this info on the MSM ( Main stream media )

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      #3
      Yes, probably here illegally, but I wonder where he got my number from as I'm not advertising at the moment. He must have got it off one of his friends who has rented, or is renting, from me. Which suggests he does, probably, have somewhere indoors to stay. But I'm not interested. He's not my problem; he's the council's problem.

      There's not been anything in the news for months about people entering UK in boats - at least I've not noticed. I wonder if they're still coming in. There's a lot we don't hear about on MSM e.g. organ harvesting of Falun Gong in China.

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        #4
        200 approx enter dover A DAY, taken to hotels,. Border police activly endorsing illegal entry. They go out and tow the inflatable boats IN.
        We can send warships to Jersey because french fishermen block the port due to their reduced fishing rights after Brexit ( but did not invade )
        But not to dover, and fire warning shots ! ! ! !

        I could give you the whole story - but then I would be condemed on here for telling the truth ( with proof )
        You cant fly in or out of U.K.unless you have been tested, but get in a boat, arrive at Dover, with no vax' and you are welcomed.

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          #5
          The situation of some of these refugees is dire. We sail that area and it isn't unusual to see all sorts, paddle boarders, boats, etc from Morocco trying to cross the Straits. A number are genuinely trying to reach a place of safety because they are at risk, particularly homosexuals and trans. But yes, some can't justify fleeing their country of origin and just want a better life.

          Ceuta is a fabulous place, worth a visit. So is Morocco, stunning countryside and the people on the whole are lovely.

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            #6
            Lot of assumptions here! No reason to assume he is here illegally - may have come before Brexit and now fallen on hard times - it happens.

            Tricky now we have left the EU - presumably he won't have registered since we left and he ill run out of options ver soon. Council generally unable to help single men - they seem to fall to the bottom of the pile

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              #7
              Originally posted by Jon66 View Post
              A number are genuinely trying to reach a place of safety because they are at risk,
              Sorry, you are wrong.
              They have already landed in "Safe" countries: Spain being one of them.
              Spain, then travel through, either or, France, Italy, Switzerland, Belgim. ( Gernany )

              They have refuge in all these countries,SAFE countries, and the law says, they should seek asylum in the nearest country, and they do NOT asking.

              NONE of theses countries are at WAR, or in a civil war.

              But NO, these fighting age men go to the best places for free handouts. ( U.K.) They come over from France, a war torn county, with tribes in Toyota pick up trucks with machine guns mounted. you have see it on the news - havent you ?. --- Not.




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                #8
                I'm always amazed by the idea that people come to the UK rather than France/Germany etc because the "handouts" are better here.
                Most of western Europe has at least as generous benefits system to the UK.

                They keep being moved on and simply run out of places to go.
                When I post, I am expressing an opinion - feel free to disagree, I have been wrong before.
                Please don't act on my suggestions without checking with a grown-up (ideally some kind of expert).

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                  #9
                  Spanish Army Pegaso BMR’s deployed in Ceuta today following yesterdays breach of the the area, seeing 5000 / 6000 illegal immigrants pour into Spain.

                  6000 is an INVASION, and NOT refugees.

                  I am just reporting the news.but don't expect to see it on UK t.v. ( freeview )


                  spain-im.jpg

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                    #10
                    Countries don't have to be at war for it's citizens to flee persecution. They may be politically opposed to the government, they may be gay, or women who have been raped whose lives are as a consequence in danger . . . and so forth.

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                      #11
                      There are some extremely bigoted false claims being posted here (as well as equally bigoted false assumptions being made).

                      For a start, there is no legal requirement for refugees to claim asylum in the first safe country they reach, and the benefits they may receive (which the majority of genuine refugees AND economic migrants don't actually want - they want to be allowed to work and support themselves) are no better than elsewhere in Europe.

                      Compared to most other countries in Europe, the UK has typically taken in very, very few refugees.
                      Of course, when we were members of the EU, the UK could choose to rely on an agreement where refugees could be passed back to any safe EU country they had passed through to have their asylum claims dealt with there. We can no longer do that and international law now requires us to process asylum claims from anyone who reaches the UK and claims asylum ourselves.

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                        #12
                        On the original question:

                        If I had taken a phone call like this I would have refused to give a reference/allow use of my address, and would have made very similar suggestions (ask friends, the council, homelessness shelters/charities for help).

                        While I sympathise with people who become homeless, I don't think it's worth risking getting involved with something that could potentially be some type of fraud.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Macromia View Post
                          On the original question:

                          If I had taken a phone call like this I would have refused to give a reference/allow use of my address, and would have made very similar suggestions (ask friends, the council, homelessness shelters/charities for help).

                          While I sympathise with people who become homeless, I don't think it's worth risking getting involved with something that could potentially be some type of fraud.
                          I can't get involved with homeless people. I've done it in the past and it's always cost me both time and money. My concern is that this was just one man, but it could happen to families too who will be living in tents. It's happening in America.

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                            #14
                            I knew of a young man, fell out with family (British) nobody appeared to help other than Sally Ally who gave him a tent. (Late January). Which got torched.
                            I am legally unqualified: If you need to rely on advice check it with a suitable authority - eg a solicitor specialising in landlord/tenant law...

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                              #15
                              UPDATE... NOW 10,000

                              Locals in Ceuta attack Spanish Prime Minister' Pedro Sanchez' motorcade as he arrived today to explain how 10,000 illegal immigrants were able to breach the border and enter their city in the
                              past 24 hours, Europeans have far outreached their tethers as government's stand by and let our continent be flooded!

                              If they cross the English channel, - even at £ 80 a day for a hotel room ( which they WILL be given ) will be
                              £ 24,000,000 ( milion ) a month.

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