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    Originally posted by jpkeates View Post
    In 2016, no one gave a monkeys about the EU apart from a very small minority of people.
    When surveyed, the public cared a lot about the NHS and immigration and the EU barely registered.
    Not sure of the validity of that considering the high turnout for the referendum, but I suspect the turnout for a repeat referendum will be considerably lower. Never mind though, we can always continue to repeat the referendum until we get the result we want.

    Originally posted by theartfullodger View Post
    So Bojo is demanding a general election because the public can't possibly want what they voted for way way back in 2017...
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    Bojo ( I like that name), bless his cotton socks, is just trying to do what all governments usually do, i.e. listen to the debate in Parliament and then carry on regardless doing whatever it is they wanted to do in the first place.

    But of-course he is frustrated, poor lad, because he doesn't have a majority. It's a shame Parliament can't follow the example of the England rugby team and work as a TEAM - then we'd be able to muller any nation in the World as well as the All Blacks.

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      Just re-read the rules - apologies to all for shouting.

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        Originally posted by kennyj52 View Post
        Bojo ( I like that name), bless his cotton socks,...
        I usually refer to him as Bozo but was merely trying to be polite...

        But of-course he is frustrated, poor lad, because he doesn't have a majority. It's a shame Parliament can't follow the example of the England rugby team and work as a TEAM - then we'd be able to muller any nation in the World as well as the All Blacks.
        Aye, of course, no worries: Is that before or after all the new trade agreements have been completed?

        I am legally unqualified: If you need to rely on advice check it with a suitable authority - eg a solicitor specialising in landlord/tenant law...

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          Originally posted by kennyj52 View Post
          Not sure of the validity of that considering the high turnout for the referendum, but I suspect the turnout for a repeat referendum will be considerably lower. Never mind though, we can always continue to repeat the referendum until we get the result we want.
          I think we should honour the result of the referendum, you can't keep having them until you get the result you want.

          We had the referendum in 1975.

          When I post, I am expressing an opinion - feel free to disagree, I have been wrong before.
          Please don't act on my suggestions without checking with a grown-up (ideally some kind of expert).

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            Originally posted by jpkeates View Post
            I think we should honour the result of the referendum, you can't keep having them until you get the result you want.

            We had the referendum in 1975.
            There was a referendum in 1975, but when circumstances change it can be appropriate to have another referendum on the same, or very similar, issues.

            Circumstances now are not the same as they were in June 2016, because the leave campaigns made very different promises about what would happen if we left the EU than we are now being offered.

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              But you can't keep holding referendums until the popular vote matches what you would prefer.

              We're a parliamentary democracy, not a direct democracy - you can't mix and match.
              That's why the EU referendum had to be advisory in the form it was presented in, and the proportional representation issue had to be a referendum (because it was a vote to change the parliamentary elections and you can't ask MPs elected under one system to vote to change it - they would have conflicts of interest all over the place).

              But we voted and now politics has to deliver or persuade people that they either didn't really want what they voted for or that what they're delivering is equal or better.
              What's been really interesting is watching the constitution of the UK hold together and absorb the pressures being placed on it.

              Two or three general elections will sort things out.
              When I post, I am expressing an opinion - feel free to disagree, I have been wrong before.
              Please don't act on my suggestions without checking with a grown-up (ideally some kind of expert).

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