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    The queues will be so long, the drivers will be able to raise a family.
    When I post, I am expressing an opinion - feel free to disagree, I have been wrong before.
    Please don't act on my suggestions without checking with a grown-up (ideally some kind of expert).

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      Originally posted by JK0 View Post
      It's not like anyone's had three year's notice to prepare, is it?
      Prepare for what.

      If the government's deal (or a version of it) is how we leave, neither of those outcomes will happen.
      If we leave with no deal, both will happen.

      If you're a business, and were promised that we'd never leave without a deal, what preparation would you put in place?
      When I post, I am expressing an opinion - feel free to disagree, I have been wrong before.
      Please don't act on my suggestions without checking with a grown-up (ideally some kind of expert).

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        Originally posted by jpkeates View Post
        Prepare for what.

        If the government's deal (or a version of it) is how we leave, neither of those outcomes will happen.
        If we leave with no deal, both will happen.

        If you're a business, and were promised that we'd never leave without a deal, what preparation would you put in place?
        Businesses have to prepare for uncertainties JPK.

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          Hot on the heels of Brexit increasing the amount of dogging going on comes (sorry) the news that there could be delays to the arrival of sperm donations into the UK (mainly from Denmark) in the event of No Deal.
          What next I wonder? Watch this space!
          Unshackled by the chains of idle vanity, A modest manatee, that's me

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            We won't be free of those wankers from Europe even after Brexit?
            Let's call it off!
            When I post, I am expressing an opinion - feel free to disagree, I have been wrong before.
            Please don't act on my suggestions without checking with a grown-up (ideally some kind of expert).

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              Ha ha well clearly we will be free of them due to ahem "blockages" at the border! I won't be happy until the UK is wearing a Confidence Condom.
              Unshackled by the chains of idle vanity, A modest manatee, that's me

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                Surely the UK is self sufficient in W***ers!

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                  I see new post-brexit businesses opportunity here.

                  Lack of product from Denmark, surplus in Kent.

                  All you need is someone willing to collect it.

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                    Absolutely. I will have to go and buy an old Ford Escort and lurk in forest clearings flashing my headlights...erm I think that is what they do, not sure, honestly?????
                    Unshackled by the chains of idle vanity, A modest manatee, that's me

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                      "How great a man is he that he would lay down his country for his life?" PROLOGUE: this is what the Financial Times reported on June 15th 2017: 'Philip Hammond is likely to increase the fears of UK infrastructure providers that they face being cut off from access to valuable European Investment Bank financing after Brexit, threatening…

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                        wow. That is shocking
                        Unshackled by the chains of idle vanity, A modest manatee, that's me

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                          Originally posted by JK0 View Post
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                          Originally posted by islandgirl View Post
                          wow. That is shocking
                          Of course it's shocking, John Ward is a good writer and his 'articles' are written with the intention of being shocking.
                          Facts and honesty are far less important to him than ensuring that his articles are suitable for the intended aim (i.e. that they are convincing enough to be re-posted as propaganda by those who already want to accept the position that he is promoting).

                          To be fair, I haven't fact checked this particular 'article' (and don't have the time to do so at the moment), but I have previously fact checked quite a few of his articles, and every single one has been a long way from an honest portrayal of the real situation.



                          Oh, and regarding 'dogging' and 'sperm', these are just examples of how the media are stretching to find 'headlines' that grab people's attention.
                          The general public are no longer interested in real stories about the potential effects of leaving with a deal, or without a deal (that's all been done and they are bored with it).
                          If the story isn't unusual somehow, which will generally mean somewhat far-fetched and irrelevant, the public won't be interested anymore.

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                            Nice try! But could it be that there are no "real" stories about the potential effects so the media have to make them up? So much of the stuff that remain made up has been shown to be incorrect or ridiculous (remember the emergency budget?) that only sensational stories are now causing any interest.
                            Unshackled by the chains of idle vanity, A modest manatee, that's me

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                              The problem, islandgirl, is that you (like most vocal leave supporters) are so invested in your belief that 'Brexit' is a good thing, and that everything that suggests there may be problems is false, that you no longer look at anything about Brexit rationally (if you ever did).

                              The extreme claims about Brexit can be disregarded - whichever side it is claimed that they favour. These will probably without any exception be either intentionally false propaganda or the most extreme (and unlikely) possibilities that have more often than not been further exaggerated by tabloid journalists who are more interested in a story than genuine news.

                              There are relatively unbiased accounts of likely outcomes from Brexit available, and none of these suggest that the UK can leave the EU without any negative effects or problems, at least in the short term - which means years, if not decades.

                              Stop believing that all the extreme claims that you have heard about how bad Brexit could be are representative of what remain supporters think will happen, and start trying to explain how you think leaving the EU will benefit people in the UK.
                              Until leave supporters start to do both of these, there is very little chance of the rift between people in the UK starting to heal.

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                                Firstly that you for calling me "vocal" - I am proud to play my small part in all of this. Secondly how about the remain camp stop making the extreme, ridiculous, stupid claims we read every day about what they think will happen and start trying to explain how staying in the EU will benefit us in the light of their avowed desire for ever closer union, their difficulties with the Euro, the european economic crisis, the power of unelected officials (and don't give me the "but they are" argument as I will raise you von der Leyen and more), the soaring unemployment figures, leaders who wish to make us a colony (yes he said it - it is on camera), their out of control budget, their new plans for an army...enough for now but there are many more.
                                The Remain campaign was extremely poor because it concentrated on what may happen if we leave (remember the Emergency Budget, instant economic crisis etc) and not on the benefits of EU membership. I wonder why? Could it be that they are few (especially compared to the negatives) and that Remain simply had to steer clear of that line?
                                It is agreed that we do not know what will happen. You Mac do not know it will be awful any more than I know it will be positive. I also accept there may be some problems or negative effects in the short term. But these are as nothing compaed with the negatives of remaining in the European Project and a small price to pay for our independence. The way to heal the rift is and has always been simple. Enact the result of the Referendum. Then in 10 years time if you can sell returning to the EU (which will probably if it exists at that time will be akin to the United States of Europe) to the people of this country you are welcome to do so. In the meantime we will be able to sit on the sidelines and watch what happens.
                                It is sad that many who support remain are quite simply scared of going out into the world without holding Mr Junker's hand and cannot look rationally at the arguments for leaving.
                                I love this thread (can you tell?)
                                Unshackled by the chains of idle vanity, A modest manatee, that's me

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