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    #16
    Wot Lawcruncher said, above. I have been using his form of guarantee for nearly ten years now and it is excellent.

    I would however add that in student joint tenancies at least, damages are nearly always claimed, in the first instance, by the joint tenancy deposit, usually the equivalent of a months rent per joint tenant. You may have to enter into dispute with them via the deposit protection scheme, but if you have appropriate evidence you can get it back.

    Only when the damage exceeds the deposit value, and the Ts lack the means to pay, might you need to start chasing Gs, and then it;s the same principle as explained above.
    'Pause you who read this, and think for a moment of the long chain of iron or gold, of thorns or flowers, that would never have bound you, but for the formation fo the first link on one memorable day'. Charles Dickens, Great Expectations

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      #17
      As the parent of a student you are held to ransom and have very little choice. However the courts have been rather reluctant to enforce guarantor agreements and IME they are often done so badly that it would be difficult to get a court to enforce them.

      We have been fortunate in that our child had decent landlords but students are seen as easy pickings by some landlords who claim for thinking like cleaning a place that wasnt clean when they moved in and pre-existing damage.. Usual advice applies - tenants should photograph everything when they move in, document the ways in which the inventory departs from the truth - and be trained that it doesnt matter whose fault it is they will be paying for any damage so they need to keep their flatmates under control.

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        aroundincircles
        We are currently having a problem with a group of 6 tenants on a joint AST whereby 4 of them are unhappy with the behaviour of 1 (the 6th tenant has remained silent on the matter). The accusations revolve around late night partying, drug taking and supplying/dealing and the disgruntled group of 4 want...
        05-03-2019, 19:33 PM
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        buzzard1994
        Unless the tenants have specifically asked you to deal with the parents then it is actually illegal for you to do so. If they do authorise it (and I'd require that in writing) you can tell them what you'd tell the tenants.You need proof of the drug taking/ supplying to ask the police to take action...
        13-03-2019, 21:34 PM
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        DPT57
        Agree completely...
        12-03-2019, 11:09 AM
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        aroundincircles
        AndrewDod,

        Whilst your concerns may be real for some, in this case they are six 20/21 year olds who approached us as a group of friends wanting to rent a house for their third year of study. They are hardly adolescent children who didn't know each other. Whilst I have some sympathy for...
        11-03-2019, 16:43 PM
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        AndrewDod
        The bottom line of all of this is that the whole legal structure of student tenancies in the UK is a disaster and a disgrace. The idea that 6 adolescent children end up getting trapped in an expensive irreversible arrangement with others they may never have encountered before via a joint tenancy is...
        10-03-2019, 02:21 AM
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        aroundincircles
        The license does not say anything specific about drugs. The taking and/or supplying of drugs is a legal matter & in my opinion should be dealt with as such. I doubt that the local authority can insist that landlords take matters into their own hands.

        Thanks to everyone for your good...
        07-03-2019, 13:06 PM
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        DPT57
        I dont think that attempting to mediate or referring elsewhere would cut it. And what does the licence say on drugs? Many have a zero tollerance approach....
        06-03-2019, 18:48 PM
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        jpkeates
        Point out that a section 8 notice ends the tenancy and, if you were successful their child would be homeless and all of the tenants would be liable for the legal costs.
        That's seems a remarkably stupid suggestion.

        There's no way that the actions as described by one tenant is sufficient...
        06-03-2019, 17:15 PM
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        theartfullodger
        I've had parents wanting to get involved before. Just remind them (unless they are guarantors..) that your tenants are the kids, not them, but thank them for their kind contribution....
        06-03-2019, 15:26 PM
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        leaseholder64
        Having procedures in place really means that you must have designed and documented them before the problem arose, which would probably also mean that those procedures were reflected in the tenancy agreement.
        06-03-2019, 14:39 PM
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