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  • New Smoke and Carbon Monoxide detectors

    Hi all,

    A first time poster here - but a regular reader!

    I let two houses through an agency on a fully managed basis. I haven't set foot in one of them in six years as I have been living at the other end of the country until recently. I thought that it would be a good idea to fit some new smoke detectors and a carbon monoxide detector (the house uses warm air heating in addition to a gas cooker)

    After some research I went for these. Two smoke and one CO. Total cost £54 at the time.

    http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Produc...er/7003512.htm
    http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Produc...er/7001590.htm

    I went over and installed them today. A big advantage of these smoke detectors is that they have a sealed battery which will last a long time (until 2019 I believe). I think I'll go for wired ones once these expire.

    Best not ever take a risk with fire or carbon monoxide.

    Cheers for now.

  • #2
    Mains wired interlinked smoke alarms are what you need. As for carbon monoxide detectors I was told of the local environmental health that as long as gas safety certs were kept up to date then they were not needed, which kind of makes sense.

    It all depends what risk you are happy with but with fire best not take the risk! With battery you could still be held liable but a lot better than not having anything.

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    • #3
      Battery detectors would be acceptable in a low risk family home.
      All posts in good faith, but do not rely on them

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      • #4
        Originally posted by hech123 View Post
        ........... As for carbon monoxide detectors I was told of the local environmental health that as long as gas safety certs were kept up to date then they were not needed, which kind of makes sense.
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        Think the question is, if you end up after the deaths of tenants & their 2 lovely little grandchildren at some court hearing, would you prefer to be able to show you'd installed CO detector: I know I would....
        I am legally unqualified: If you need to rely on advice check it with a suitable authority - eg a solicitor specialising in landlord/tenant law...

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        • #5
          Originally posted by JonFlower View Post
          Hi all,

          A first time poster here - but a regular reader!

          I let two houses through an agency on a fully managed basis. I haven't set foot in one of them in six years as I have been living at the other end of the country until recently. I thought that it would be a good idea to fit some new smoke detectors and a carbon monoxide detector (the house uses warm air heating in addition to a gas cooker)

          After some research I went for these. Two smoke and one CO. Total cost £54 at the time.

          http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Produc...er/7003512.htm
          http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Produc...er/7001590.htm

          I went over and installed them today. A big advantage of these smoke detectors is that they have a sealed battery which will last a long time (until 2019 I believe). I think I'll go for wired ones once these expire.

          Best not ever take a risk with fire or carbon monoxide.

          Cheers for now.
          What about a heat detector one for the kitchen?

          ML
          Refer Mad Regulators to Arkell vs Pressdram.

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          • #6
            Yes deffiantely but if you have a current gas certificate then you are covered and it is the plumber who is in court. I was told that if you have a boiler in a bedroom then they may be law but this was not confirmed, I think there is no current law for them but I may be wrong, I am looking at putting them in and have them already in a lot of properties but it is difficult when you manage a lot of units but you have to still try and be more responsible.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by midlandslandlord View Post
              What about a heat detector one for the kitchen?

              ML
              Agreed, a requirement under LACORS. I tried to post the link and discovered that it has been withdrawn and is being updated.

              Link to original guidance
              http://www.lacors.gov.uk/lacors/upload/19175.pdf

              Link to last update
              http://www.landlords.org.uk/sites/de...March_2009.pdf

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              • #8
                Thank you for the replies.

                I don't have a heat detector in the kitchen or lounge. So, do you think I ought to install battery powered heat detectors for the short term? The consumer unit in the property is quite old, so I was planning to have a brand new one installed at some point after April 2013. Once this is in place I could then have interlinked alarms installed and wired onto their own trip etc.

                Let me know your thoughts.
                Jon

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by grouse View Post
                  Agreed, a requirement under LACORS. I tried to post the link and discovered that it has been withdrawn and is being updated.

                  Link to original guidance
                  http://www.lacors.gov.uk/lacors/upload/19175.pdf

                  Link to last update
                  http://www.landlords.org.uk/sites/de...March_2009.pdf
                  It wouldn't be a requirement as LACoRS is not the Law. Also as I understand the body LACoRS no longer exist? So I'm not sure now the value of the guidance within LACoRS?

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                  • #10
                    Saw this story in the week:

                    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...side-flat.html

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                    • #11
                      tragic story but he may of had all electric heating/cooker and not of needed a co2 detector in any case. This said I have just bought a massive load of them, 10 year life for £11 each, better safe than sorry

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by hech123 View Post
                        tragic story but he may of had all electric heating/cooker and not of needed a co2 detector in any case. This said I have just bought a massive load of them, 10 year life for £11 each, better safe than sorry
                        Good on you. Exactly, his flat may have been all electric. For the sake of £10-£20 I think all properties should have one installed.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Darren Baird View Post
                          It wouldn't be a requirement as LACoRS is not the Law. Also as I understand the body LACoRS no longer exist? So I'm not sure now the value of the guidance within LACoRS?
                          In the absence of any newer publication geared to these types of properties, I expect it will continue to be referred to by councils etc as it still is to this day.
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