EICR (Again) - What is actually required for a “Satisfactory” report?

[Real_Politik]

Just had a mandatory EICR carried out, arranged by the managing agent I should have ditched by now - as expected, it was “Unsatisfactory” and there are numerous C2 issues for which I’m being asked to fork out a big chunk of money. Their approach is that if it doesn’t meet all the 18th edition legislation it must be made to do so.

The property in question was entirely rewired from scratch in 2010 and an EIC was provided then, so everything met the relevant legislation at that point. I’m now being told that I must replace the consumer unit for a metal one, fit RCD additional protection for all sockets etc.

Are these requirements all genuinely retrospective (eg IP rating of enclosure “not adequate” etc)?

[Neelix]

I would get the property inspected again by somebody who knows the rules

a home does NOT have to meet the requirements of the 18th edition

inspect to 18th edition and use of C3 to mark issues that were installed to a previous version of the regulations

what Do you have C2’s for ?

a plastic fuseboard is not a C2

[Real_Politik]

Thank you, that was my understanding. Issues as below (not clear what the bonding problems are without seeing them, as I know this was previously carried out as a separate job):

[baldelectrician]

Something does not add up

1. You had a 'rewire' in 2010
2. This 'rewire' failed to provide RCD protection for sockets liable to supply equipment outdoors- this bit started to arrive in the wiring regulations in 1992.
3. The IP rating of the consumer unit means the previous contractor left holes that stuff (like fingers) can enter the enclosure- this can often be fixed with silcone etc.


Have a look at your EIC supplied previously- what does it say about gas bonding?

What make is the existing consumer unit?
You can often get RCBO's for the recent ones, as long as it is in good order there is no need to replace it.

[Neelix]

Something doesn't add up IMHO

Could you post a photo of the fuseboard?

[catdog1121]

Either this was not rewired in 2010 or whoever did it should be the person you should be questioning rather than the inspector, everything being true in the report (ie there is no RCD protection etc) then the report seems reasonable. You are not being told you need to change the consumer unit just because it is not metal, there are maybe a few things I would have C3'd maybe instead of C2 however the result will be the same it requires a new consumer unit...

Who did you get to do the rewire in 2010? do you have building regs compliance certificate?

[Real_Politik]

Thanks all, I’m now looking for the paperwork from when the rewire was done - certain everything including the CU was replaced then as the previous wiring all dated from the ‘60s! There’s a tenant there and I’m 175 miles away, so can’t get a photo right now.

[Neelix]

Thanks all, I’m now looking for the paperwork from when the rewire was done - certain everything including the CU was replaced then as the previous wiring all dated from the ‘60s! There’s a tenant there and I’m 175 miles away, so can’t get a photo right now.

Could you not get the tenant to send you a photo or 2?

[Real_Politik]

OK, now found the EIC papers and the details of what was installed:


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[Real_Politik]

EIC test results:

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[Neelix]

EIC test results:

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That certainly muddies the water a bit and suggests some of the installation is RCD protected and some isn't - the lights not being protected and this only became mandatory with the 18th edition. This means your lighting circuits should be given a C3 IMHO

I'd still like to see a photo of the fuseboard.

[Neelix]

Also, can you post the schedule of test results from the EICR you have received?

[Real_Politik]

EICR test page:

[Neelix]

Theres something very odd going on here.

BS3871 breakers were superceded by BS 60898 in about 1994 - so the "rewire" in 2010 doesn't add up

Also the EICR suggests there is RCD protection but no test results

VERY ODD


Really need to see a photo of the fuseboard

[Real_Politik]

Looking over the documents, the rewire was actually done in 2007, not 2010. The old fuse board was most definitely replaced then (as was everything else - the place was stripped back to a shell after not having had any work whatsoever done since the 1960s). Aiming to get a photo of the consumer unit.