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    Hi All,
    I think I have the answer to this but thought I'd get a few opinions before setting the ball in motion.

    I was informed last week from my managing letting agent that my rent would be a week late which we accepted. The rent has never been on time but has always been paid but up to two weeks late. The letting agent has now just got in touch again and advised that the rent is going to be another week late due to Ramadan.
    I'm lost for words, I've tried to help this tenant over the past ten months but they really are taking the p!ss.

    I believe I can issue a section 21 notice now for them to vacate in July which I now think is my preferred option as this is just too much hassle.

    I wonder what my mortgage lender would say when I approach them with this excuse? I don't think these people are taking this seriously and can now understand why it's impossible for some to get mortgages.

    Your thoughts would be welcome, thanks.

    #2
    Are you sure it's the tenant who is late with the rent, and not your agent who has cash flow problems? Is agent a Muslim?

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      #3
      I'm not 100% sure it's not the agent but that's a good point.
      I don't believe the agent to be a Muslim, but what does that matter anyway? I'm a Christian and would rent to anyone willing to pay, I'm not a charity.
      I still can't understand what the implication of Ramadan has on my rent payment anyway. The point is that Ramadan lasts for a month and they say they are going to pay on the 2nd which is still Ramadan.
      This is just a feeble excuse and I'm fuming that the letting agent has even asked me the question even after I stated in a previous email that it shouldn't go further than 1 week..

      Section 21 me thinks?

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        #4
        I guessed I would be painted as a racist for enquiring if the agent was a Muslim.

        My point, if you recall was to wonder if it was the agent delaying the rent or the tenant. Therefore if the excuse is 'Ramadan', and the agent is Muslim, but not the tenant, it suggests the agent is the problem, not the tenant.

        Do what you like.

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          #5
          Rent being persistently late surely means you have (or should have ) served s8 g10&11 several times. Evict tenant who clearly has no interest in observing contract terms & sack agent & start again.

          Religion - or none - appears irrelevant ,
          I am legally unqualified: If you need to rely on advice check it with a suitable authority - eg a solicitor specialising in landlord/tenant law...

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            #6
            I don't get the relevance of religion here. I rented to a Muslim faith family man for 5 years, he was most meticulous about paying rent on time and he did observe Ramadan 'rules'.

            Evict tenant.
            Last edited by Interlaken; 26-05-2017, 09:01 AM. Reason: addition



            Freedom at the point of zero............

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              #7
              I'm not explaining my post again.

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                #8
                Ramadan starts today for a month, so it's hard to see why that would cause a week's delay...
                When I post, I am expressing an opinion - feel free to disagree, I have been wrong before.
                Please don't act on my suggestions without checking with a grown-up (ideally some kind of expert).

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Interlaken View Post
                  I don't get the relevance of religion here. I rented to a Muslim faith family man for 5 years, he was most meticulous about paying rent on time and he did observe Ramadan 'rules'.

                  Evict tenant.
                  He's saying the tenant may not be the issue, potentially the letting agent.

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                    #10
                    Thanks for all your replies.
                    My initial thoughts have been confirmed and I will be issuing the section 21 notice on Tuesday.
                    The constant chasing of rent and chasing the agent to get things done is not what I expected.

                    The final straw for me was when the tenant called the agent a week ago to delay the rent by 1 week (which was normal and we accepted) but then called again to delay by another week and blamed it on Ramadan. All Muslims know when Ramadan is and I found this just to be a feeble excuse and felt they were taking me for some kind of mug.

                    The agent says they asked the tenant to contact them by Close of business on Friday but they failed to do so, they obviously think they can call the shots.
                    I hope the eviction will go smoothly and we can either sell the property or re let it to decent tenants.

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                      #11
                      I'm assuming the tenancy is now periodic or approaching expiry?

                      I would issue section 21 too. Make sure everything is in order and that agent has acted properly.

                      Check deposit was placed in a scheme within 30 days, and all relevant documents have been issued. Right to rent, gas cert....

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                        #12
                        Yes, the tenancy will change to periodic in July if we don't do anything..
                        I believe the agent has acted correctly and issued all the correct documents within the allowed time.

                        It's a shame that the tenant is seeing me as a mug as I was going to continue into a periodic tenancy at the same rent as the previous year.
                        Never mind, I'm sure it could be re let, but I'll be looking more carefully at the calibre of tenants next time.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Ruswh View Post
                          I believe the agent has acted correctly and issued all the correct documents within the allowed time.
                          I would check that before serving notice.
                          If they didn't do everything right, the notice won't be valid, and you don't want to find that out after waiting two months.
                          When I post, I am expressing an opinion - feel free to disagree, I have been wrong before.
                          Please don't act on my suggestions without checking with a grown-up (ideally some kind of expert).

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