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    Another one wants a reduction

    You guys may remember my tenants in my father's old house in Jersey. Back in 2011 they offered £2000 pcm, and moved in, then almost immediately the husband was imprisoned for fraud. I agreed to accept £1500 for the time being. However, the maintenance bill for this place has taken quite a lot of this.

    My tenants refused to move out when their lease was up, (and the law seems to think they need the house more than me,) so last year I said they could stay on at £1800 pcm.

    I just received the following from my agent:

    Dear Mr. JK0, sorry to send another email so quickly after the last one but I have just spoken to Mrs. B. She has advised me that her ex-husband is back in prison and therefore the maintenance payments he was making have ceased. She is receiving Income Support but this is not enough with her earnings to pay the rent and bills. Income Support have a ceiling on the rents for all properties and they assess a 3 bedroom house at £1,500 per month. This is less than most landlords charge but they will not vary this figure. Mrs. B is aware that the lease is due for renewal on the 1st April, 2017 and is asking if the rent could be reduced to £1,600 per calendar month.

    I look forward to hearing from you.

    Kind regards,
    Any thoughts?

    #2
    Dear Mr Agent

    Thank you for your helpful message. Perhaps she would be better applying for affordable housing - see
    https://www.gov.je/home/rentingbuyin...ges/index.aspx

    I had not realised the rent amount was flexible, thanks: On reflection I am now asking for rent of £1,950 per calendar month.

    If Mrs B wishes to agree an early surrender please liaise with me on dates.

    Otherwise, kindly serve notice on Mrs B when periodic in line with
    https://www.gov.je/Home/RentingBuyin....aspx#anchor-2
    If you want to end a periodic tenancy, you must give the correct notice:

    a tenant must give at least one month's written notice when ending a periodic tenancy.
    a landlord must give at least three months' written notice when ending a periodic tenancy.
    you cannot give notice to end a fixed-term tenancy early unless the lease includes a break clause.
    Shame that your dad's memory is involved in this sorry mess.

    Blimey, they actually managed to convict and imprison someone for fraud on Jersey!
    I am legally unqualified: If you need to rely on advice check it with a suitable authority - eg a solicitor specialising in landlord/tenant law...

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      #3
      Do you know what the rental market is like in Jersey - can you get another tenant pretty quick?

      Personally I wouldn't agree a discount. She can apply for discretionary housing benefit for the shortfall.

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        #4
        Thanks guys.

        Ah, well that's the problem Claymore. I have had voids as long as a year before now, never mind that the place will probably need a major overhaul after my benefit tenants.

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          #5
          Ouch!

          In that case, I might consider going back to her with a counter offer of £1675.

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            #6
            Here we are again... (not happy as can be)

            Tenant has paid between £1600 and £1700 pcm for the last year. I have pointed out a number of 3 bed houses and flats on the social housing website to my tenant, but obviously she prefers to stay in my 4 bed, and has done.

            Now her son has left school, she only qualifies for a 3 bed in benefits so now threatens to reduce her rent still further.

            As I did not kick her out on the previous notice date, she requires a further notice letter from me for her to be considered homeless.

            What a shambles, eh?

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              #7
              Ouch.

              Think in the long run it would be less painful to kick her out and get a tenant in that can afford to pay? Or is the regular income worth the pain/hassle of periodically having to disagree on the rent?

              "Stuck between a rock and a hard place" seems appropriate.

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