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    Tenant has no surname.

    I have an excellent tenant but have recently realised that he (and his family members) use no surnames, signing all contracts with one given name... presumably their chosen names. It is a bit odd but how do I stand if in the future if I need to enter into legal perocedures with them? The letting agent tells me that their passports show just the one name too.

    #2
    You refer to them by whatever their name is.
    Legally your name is what you're known by, so it's quite a fluid concept.
    When I post, I am expressing an opinion - feel free to disagree, I have been wrong before.
    Please don't act on my suggestions without checking with a grown-up (ideally some kind of expert).

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      #3
      I have never come across that before. If the names in the contract match the names in the passport I can see no problem. After all, you cannot conjure up a name. Out of curiosity, which country are they from?

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        #4
        Mononymous names are quite common in some parts of the world, less so in 'the West' these days but even that has changed over the years.

        Pythagoras, Plato,- Greeks
        Boudica, Carractacus,- ancient Britons.

        As long as that is their official name, eg. as on their passport, then there is no problem

        Some believe that it was because of increasing population that we had to start adding a second identifier so as not to mix people up.

        Popular was to add your job description- John Smith, Alan Cooper, etc. or your parents name, as in Steve Peterson.
        Adding the name of your town of origin was also popular if you had moved elsewhere, Tony Blackburn?

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mononymous_person

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          #5
          They are British but their names are odd.

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            #6
            Do they all call themselves Odd?
            "I'm afraid I didn't do enough background checks apart from checking her identity on Facebook" - ANON

            What I say is based on my own experience and research - Please don't take as gospel without first checking the gospel yourself.

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              #7
              Originally posted by 3Xlandlady View Post
              They are British but their names are odd.
              So? Charles, Williams, Henry, Andrew, Edward, and Anne etc. are all British and they don't legally have surname either.
              I am not a lawyer, nor am I licensed to provide any regulated advice. None of my posts should be treated as legal or financial advice.

              I do not answer questions through private messages which should be posted publicly on the forum.

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                #8
                Did you not take copies of driving license, NI card or Passport?? And I also want to see payslips (confirms NI number)

                If you only know there one-and-only name how can you know they are "British"??

                When did last tenancy start? Was a "Right to Rent" check run ?
                I am legally unqualified: If you need to rely on advice check it with a suitable authority - eg a solicitor specialising in landlord/tenant law...

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                  #9
                  According to this site: http://www.zyra.me.uk/single-name.htm it is possible in the UK to have only a single name.

                  (The legal information on the site is not altogether correct.)

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                    #10
                    There are undoubtedly more people on various fora around the world who know me as nukecad (often shortened to nuke) than will ever know my real, legal name.

                    Not sure just what point I'm trying to make there?

                    Maybe something like - who remembers Mr Barca had a surname?
                    One of the most famous mononemes in history, but would you know who I was talking about without google?

                    Edit.
                    You are still going to have problems searching google for that one, I'll give you a clue - Elephants.

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                      #11
                      Not sure just what point I'm trying to make there?
                      Got it now.

                      We get to choose the name that we use on forums - 99% of us choose a one word name.

                      How long will it be before that becomes more important than the names on our birth certificates?
                      (You could use it legally now, you don't even need a deed poll but it would probably be a good idea).

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                        #12
                        Your legal name is the one the State has on record for you, not Equity nor screen name - so Birth Cert. Passport or valid Deed Poll name change. Bob Dylan's 'real name was Robert Zimmerman but not a lot of people know that.
                        Sir Cliff Richard would be charged under his real name of Harry Norman Webb.

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                          #13
                          Your legal name is whatever you're know as.
                          Which is why arrrest warrants can list a series of names - Harry Smith also know as Harry the Hatchett, Smith the Soap, Soapy Smith etc

                          If you want a passport in your name, you need to provide a single name with some evidence.
                          Which (in the UK) would usually be your birth certificate and any deed changing your name.
                          Other nations have different conventions.

                          Cliff Richard's legal name is Cliff Richard.
                          https://images.nationalarchives.gov....escending=true
                          When I post, I am expressing an opinion - feel free to disagree, I have been wrong before.
                          Please don't act on my suggestions without checking with a grown-up (ideally some kind of expert).

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                            #14
                            In In Re Parrott, Cox v Parrott it was held that it was impossible to change a Christian name by deed poll.

                            https://deedpolloffice.com/change-na...tt-1946-Ch-183

                            The decision has been ignored and you can enrol a deed poll with a change of forename, though it will be endorsed: "Notwithstanding the decision of Mr Justice Vaisey in In re Parrott, Cox v Parrott, the applicant wishes the enrolment to proceed".

                            It may be noted that the case specifically refers to Christian name, that is the name given on baptism. Presumably it does not apply if you are not baptised.

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                              #15
                              Yeah, completely and totally ignored by everyone.

                              *Look at own deed poll*

                              Don't even have that sentence.

                              In the UK, your name is the name you use and one can pretty much change it whenever to whatever save that you can't be doing it to commit fraud etc.. However in practice, if you want to have things like passport or open a bank account etc. you'd need some documentary evidence of what your name is. Businesses relies on passports and driving license. DL can rely on passport, so if you satisfy the requirement of the HM Passport Office, you can change your name for all purposes. A deed poll is sufficient for the HMPO.
                              I am not a lawyer, nor am I licensed to provide any regulated advice. None of my posts should be treated as legal or financial advice.

                              I do not answer questions through private messages which should be posted publicly on the forum.

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