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    Repaint walls back to how it was?

    Hi,

    I will be moving out in one month time and i'm wondering if i have to repaint the walls back to a neutral colors. Before i've painted the walls i've contacted my letting agency which forwarded the question to the landlord and the landlord agreed. everything was done on a verbal level. Now i've asked my letting agency if i need to repaint the walls to the color their were and the answer was that i have to stick to whatever contract states which is not very clear and basically says

    "To return the Property and any fixtures and fittings at the end of the tenancy in the same clean state and condition as they were at the commencement of the tenancy."

    Not sure how to interpretate this in terms of the color of the walls. I've used quite expensive paints to do the decorating, especially for the bathroom, i've ued a special washable paint in a light blue color. for the other rooms i've used light green and sor of pinkish for kids room.

    Should I repaint it back to how it was?

    #2
    The contract seems to back the position of leaving them as they are currently.
    I would be asserting that it was not agreed that you paint the walls when you left.

    Invite the landlord to come and have a look.

    How long have you been at the property?
    Allow tenants to protect their own deposits. I want free money when they do it wrong

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      #3
      I've been at the property for 3 years and 1 month exactly and the landlord decided that he wants to move back to the property.

      i've painted the rooms about 7-8 months ago just to refresh the looks.

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        #4
        Originally posted by emil87b View Post
        I've been at the property for 3 years and 1 month exactly and the landlord decided that he wants to move back to the property.
        .....
        So he wants to move back in: Very interesting: Has he served a valid notice (eg S21 or S8 notice) to you?? If not, ignore him. If he has served notice let us know what sort...

        Even if notice is valid it will take him a couple of months after expiry to evict you...

        Cheers!
        I am legally unqualified: If you need to rely on advice check it with a suitable authority - eg a solicitor specialising in landlord/tenant law...

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          #5
          Originally posted by emil87b View Post
          light blue color. for the other rooms i've used light green and sort of pinkish for kids room.

          Should I repaint it back to how it was?
          As suggested ask the LL to inspect and take it from there or don't ask and repaint it back neutral.

          If you rented a house out to someone, would you want it back to how it was?
          "I'm afraid I didn't do enough background checks apart from checking her identity on Facebook" - ANON

          What I say is based on my own experience and research - Please don't take as gospel without first checking the gospel yourself.

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            #6
            Originally posted by theartfullodger View Post
            So he wants to move back in: Very interesting: Has he served a valid notice (eg S21 or S8 notice) to you?? If not, ignore him. If he has served notice let us know what sort...

            Even if notice is valid it will take him a couple of months after expiry to evict you...

            Cheers!
            Where did that come from Artful? The question was about paint and you suggest staying until evicted. Do you know something that we don't?

            If I were the LL, I would expect the same colours to be there when I go back as when I let the property. Who knows what furniture colure will be used and if the new colours will suit?

            If I were the OP I would be inclined to repaint to as it was when they moved in as if the LL deiced to have it down as per the TA they may try to charge the OP for reinstatement. The issue of betterment would not come into it as the colours are different.

            If I were the LL I would not let anyone decorate unless I knew that the job would be a good one. I speak from unfortunate experience as a previous T of mine assured me that he and his professional decorator father would refresh the flat he was renting from me, in fact he assured me after the event. Not good. Maybe he and his father were professional painters when colouring by numbers?

            Best advice, communicate with the LL.

            pm
            Before acting on forum advice, you may wish to consult an expert, someone who has all the relevant facts, and who accepts liability for their advice.

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              #7
              the landlord is coming in on thursday, he gave me 2 months notiece but the question is:

              Do i have to repaint the walls back to original color based on the contract statement:
              "To return the Property and any fixtures and fittings at the end of the tenancy in the same clean state and condition as they were at the commencement of the tenancy."
              ?

              to be honest if i would be a landlord and someone would paint my walls before moving in with expensive dulux paints i'd rather keep them than paint thema back to cheapest B&Q magnolia (like they were before)

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                #8
                I think you do, if the landlord insists.

                Or you can prove otherwise.

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                  #9
                  Were the rooms painted in the same pastel shades (blue, green, pink) when you moved in?
                  If not, the LL can expect the property returned in original colours. There is no ambiguity in AST clause. Even though you have repainted with quality paint, is your workmanship up to standard? If not, LL can still claim cost for professional repaint.
                  Asa others have said, see if LL likes your colours and standard of work before doing anything else. You never know, he may like it!

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                    #10
                    emil: You PM'd me: If you have a question please post it in this thread...

                    I repeat, what sort of notice (s21, s8..) have you been served with - if any notice at all, please?
                    I am legally unqualified: If you need to rely on advice check it with a suitable authority - eg a solicitor specialising in landlord/tenant law...

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by mariner View Post
                      Were the rooms painted in the same pastel shades (blue, green, pink) when you moved in?
                      If not, the LL can expect the property returned in original colours. There is no ambiguity in AST clause. Even though you have repainted with quality paint, is your workmanship up to standard? If not, LL can still claim cost for professional repaint.
                      Asa others have said, see if LL likes your colours and standard of work before doing anything else. You never know, he may like it!
                      Absolutely, the agreement is completely clear.

                      The choices are either (1) you to repaint now in the original colours (and hope that the landlord agrees that your workmanship is good enough (or he would still be within his rights to charge you for another, professional repaint); or (2) do nothing, which is even more likely to make the landlord charge you for repainting; or (3) ask the landlord whether he's Ok with your colours and workmanship and hope the answer is yes. If he does want the original colours putting back, you can at least check with him that your brushwork is up to scratch or you could be wasting your time repainting now yourself.

                      Bit of a red herring banging on about using 'quality paint' to be honest - it's the workmanship that will be far more significant to the landlord.

                      Originally posted by theartfullodger View Post
                      I repeat, what sort of notice (s21, s8..) have you been served with - if any notice at all, please?
                      As property mongrel said, I'm not sure why you're turning this into a 'how-to-delay-eviction' question - the OP hasn't asked about it; and for sure if (s)he antagonises the landlord by resisting, it's very likely that he'll be less amenable about the current state of the decor...

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by emil87b View Post
                        Should I repaint it back to how it was?
                        Why this thread has gone onto 2 pages mystifies me. Don't make a decision yourself, don't try to interpret anything, don't attempt to justify current laziness with previous expense and effort you've incurred... ask the Landlord. If the Landlord is happy the way it is, then don't paint over it. If the Landlord wants it returning to its original condition, then do paint over it. If you agree with the Landlord's decision, great. If you don't agree with the Landlord's decision, start another thread.

                        Job. Done.

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                          #13
                          don't know where you got the idea of someone being lazy here... i don't mind painting it back, thats why i asked the agency (first post) because i'm not able to contact LL directly, but when i've been told to do as contract states than i would like to interpretate it correctly, especially when LL agreed for painting in the first place. Thats where my question comes from.

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                            #14
                            I didn't.

                            I said don't do that.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by emil87b View Post
                              .... because i'm not able to contact LL directly, .....
                              Yes you are: There must be (well, should be..***) and address for landlord "for the serving of notices" - which might be c/o agent. Write to him - keep copy! Or simply write to agent requiring his real name & address - if they don;t supply within 21 days it's a criminal offence. Or spend £3 with landregistry & see what name & address come up.. see...
                              https://www.gov.uk/search-property-i...-land-registry

                              *** Well, should be & if you don't have an address for landlord then no rent is due (but it all becomes due when you are given an address, which must be in England or Wales: His "real" address is his home, wherever in the world...

                              I repeat, again, what sort of notice (s21, s8..) have you been served with - if any notice at all, please?
                              I am legally unqualified: If you need to rely on advice check it with a suitable authority - eg a solicitor specialising in landlord/tenant law...

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