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    Tenant wasting electricity at my cost

    Hi I am a landlady in surrey we rent aan Annexe to a couple £950 pcm to include all utilites etc but I am annoyed as the tenant has lost his job and he is looking but all the lights are on in the day time with curtains closed. This make me so cross as indirectly they are clearly not paying enough. Sorry to moan but I feel like telling them ok enough of these silly games. Switch off lights & stop wasting OUR Monies. Regards amandah. Ps I am not allowed to upset the tenants according to the Agents !! They did a tenant finding service. Please advise Thank-you

    #2
    You're annoyed? How does tenant feel, unemployed?

    You decided to rent including utilities (you had a choice) so an expected cost, your problem. Next time separate meter and utilities in tenant's name.

    Council tax separate? Planning permission for separate dwelling?

    Presumably not AST as a annex.
    I am legally unqualified: If you need to rely on advice check it with a suitable authority - eg a solicitor specialising in landlord/tenant law...

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      #3
      Originally posted by amandah View Post
      Sorry to moan
      It's alright to moan that's what forums are for. Unfortunately this isn't a sympathy forum.

      Originally posted by amandah View Post
      Please advise Thank-you
      Evict them and don't rent the property out with utilities included next time. They're not doing anything wrong, they've paid their money to have everything all inclusive. It's a bit like a restaurant owner moaning when a group of fat people come to the all you can eat buffet.

      If they've not got them already buy energy bulbs for the annex and give them to tenant.
      "I'm afraid I didn't do enough background checks apart from checking her identity on Facebook" - ANON

      What I say is based on my own experience and research - Please don't take as gospel without first checking the gospel yourself.

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        #4
        amandah - £950 is a good little earner, but if you are really concerned you need to find out how much this change in behaviour is really costing you. After all, all you have at the moment is a bad feeling. Yes, you can compare bills month to month, but can you do it year by year as well? Can you turn off everything in your part of the property and see how much the meters are going around? Can you quantitatively assess what is the real monetary impact to you?

        Until you can, it's just a bad feeling that you have. If the person / people you let to stayed at home a lot and ran lots of electrical equipment they could also rack up the bills, but you are appearing to focus on the lights being on while the curtains are closed aspect. Which is, really, just something that you perceive to be unnecessary and wasteful and it [comes across as it] is annoying you.

        The reason you're in this little pickle is due to you doing this inclusive of all bills. I have yet to hear of a situation where this is a good idea. Proper Tenants need to be responsible for their own bills. Lodgers and suchlike may often share them. I would, personally, never let anything out with bills included. I think you are pretty much stuck with the situation you went into with open eyes.

        Please do try and be thankful this person doesn't decide to go 'self-employed' and set up the feared 24/7 server farm, with 100% free power, from your annexe.

        I do not see much you can do apart from very deliberately try to not let it annoy you, any more. Learn for next time, absolutely. As to how expensive it will be for you in the end, only you can say, but I doubt you'll be running at a loss.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Wannadonnadoodah View Post
          It's a bit like a restaurant owner moaning when a group of fat people come to the all you can eat buffet.
          I am not fat... I am big-boned.

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            #6
            You're annoyed? How does tenant feel, unemployed?

            You decided to rent including utilities (you had a choice) so an expected cost, your problem. Next time separate meter and utilities in tenant's name.

            Council tax separate? Planning permission for separate dwelling?

            Presumably not AST as a annex.
            I am legally unqualified: If you need to rely on advice check it with a suitable authority - eg a solicitor specialising in landlord/tenant law...

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              #7
              Originally posted by Hippogriff View Post
              I am not fat... I am big-boned.
              Your mum says the nicest things to you Griff.
              "I'm afraid I didn't do enough background checks apart from checking her identity on Facebook" - ANON

              What I say is based on my own experience and research - Please don't take as gospel without first checking the gospel yourself.

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                #8
                I am big boned AND FAT.
                I am legally unqualified: If you need to rely on advice check it with a suitable authority - eg a solicitor specialising in landlord/tenant law...

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                  #9
                  There's not a lot you can do about the situation you find yourself in.
                  The agents have got nothing to do with it, so if you must upset them by asking them to be condsiderate, then upset them you must.

                  I do suspect you are overestimating how much extra they are costing you though.
                  Allow tenants to protect their own deposits. I want free money when they do it wrong

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                    #10
                    "I do suspect you are overestimating how much extra they are costing you though. "

                    I don't.

                    I had a T in a HMO who was off sick and had the heating on 24/7. It cost me £80 a week! That was more than his rent. Grrrrrrrrrrrrr

                    I'd give them a S21 and tell them your Mum/daughter whoever now needs the property.

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                      #11
                      I know not of any tenants that heat properties with light bulbs.
                      Allow tenants to protect their own deposits. I want free money when they do it wrong

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by thesaint View Post
                        I know not of any tenants that heat properties with light bulbs.
                        halogen.jpg

                        Could be one of these?
                        "I'm afraid I didn't do enough background checks apart from checking her identity on Facebook" - ANON

                        What I say is based on my own experience and research - Please don't take as gospel without first checking the gospel yourself.

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                          #13
                          Is the annexe, self-contained wth separate entrance and own C-Tax valuation?
                          Does it have seperate metered utility supplies?
                          Does the 'T' have an AST for the annexe alone or withacces to shared areas of main property?
                          When was rent last agreed?
                          Have you changed gas/elec supplier/tariff recently to get best price?

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                            #14
                            Lets say it's 6*100 watt light bulbs (old school bulbs, nothing energy efficient).
                            On for 24 hours a day for a year (at 13p a KwHour) will cost about £690.
                            Obviously, the lights would be on for a time anyway, so the increased cost is less than that.

                            If you change the light bulbs for energy efficient bulbs (say 25 watt), the cost would be less than £200.
                            When I post, I am expressing an opinion - feel free to disagree, I have been wrong before.
                            Please don't act on my suggestions without checking with a grown-up (ideally some kind of expert).

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                              #15
                              Thank-you for your reply I have been letting out the Annexe, which is attached to the main house for many years.In the main house where we live there is a sub meter below ours, but it would be too expensive to move it. It boils down to not wasting energy and being careful. Yes the council tax too is seperate.I feel for the tenant, but where else can you find a nice spacious place away from everything that includes all bills in with the rent? Regards Amandah

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