Problems with rodent infestation: mouse/mice/rats/etc.

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    #31
    I rented a house right next to a canal. At night you could see rats the size of kittens on the tow path, and I started to hear scratching noises in walls of the house. After a search on the internet I found a PestClear 3000, selling for around 50 pounds. It plugs into the wall and works in two ways.

    There is an ultrasonic emitter which can be heard by the pests but not by most humans. It has settings for rodents, spiders, insects and mosquitoes. This works in the room the PestClear is fitted and makes that room uncomfortable for the creatures.

    Additionally it sends an electromagnetic wave through the mains wiring which makes it uncomfortable for rodents near the wires. This can be either continuous or intermittent and you are meant to change it between the two on a daily basis until the pest is cleared and then change it on a weekly basis after that.

    In my experience, the scratchings stopped within a fortnight of plugging the unit in, and I have always had it plugged into all my homes after this experience and never had another pest problem.

    The unit works by making the house uncomfortable for the pest so they do not nest there and move on to somewhere more comfortable.

    The above sounds just like a sales pitch. It's not, just the report of a satisfied customer.

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      #32
      Try this link on ebay. A lot cheaper here. I have just installed one in a house I let. Early days yet as it has only been in a week. Not had any complaints so far about the pitter patter of tiny feet http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PESTCLEAR-3000-ULTRASONIC-PEST-REPELLER-MICE-RATS-etc_W0QQitemZ140132632273QQihZ004QQcategoryZ75581Q QtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem

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        #33
        Mice in rented Accom, who is responsible?

        Hello.

        Please can anyone advise. l live in rented accomodation and am in receipt income support and housing benefit.
        We have just discovered we have mice/rats running around in our home.
        God forbid they are rats.
        l phoned the council Pest Control Dept who informed me that there is a waiting list until the 19th May to send someone round to lay down traps/poisen, and then there will be a £60 charge.
        We are Assured Tenants as granted by the courts some yrs back, but do not hold any kind of tenancy agreement [paperwork] document.

        My question is : Is the Landlord responsible for the costs of ridding the Mice/rats from our home.

        Thank you

        Scot.

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          #34
          Tricky one. My house backs on to fields so sometimes get field mice making a appearance but that does not make it my fault. We had a neighbours a few years ago who were so dirty the way they lived, rats started to show up. Not my fault but it was in my interest to to lay traps and poison.

          In my opinion it would be your responsability and in your best interests to deal with it yourself. It would come under your tenant reponsabilities such as changing a fuse, light bulb, unblocking a sink, clean windows and the little jobs about the property. Keeping the property rat free would be in keeping with "taking proper care" of the property.

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            #35
            Mice

            I moved into a flat which was infested with mice and I MEAN INFESTED.
            Sine the gestation period of a mouse is about 15 days, I would strongly recomend that rather than concerning youself with who is technically responsible to get on and deal with it yourself. Its cheap & easy to deal with mice.
            Dont leave food where they can get at it.
            Invest in a couple of cheap traps (the old wooden ones are best i find)

            Pest control problems natualy occur in any home and are surely part of good house keeping to keep them at bay yourself.

            Happy Traping

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              #36
              We had a very persistent rat who kept getting into our house via the plastic kitchen waste pipes. He'd climb up the pipe, eat through the pipe inside the house and then escape into the house. We knew when he'd gotten in because the waste water would flood the kitchen floor after he'd chewed his way through the internal pipe.

              We blocked off the external pipe, so he just chewed through the external pipe instead.

              Next we tried a humane rat trap (my husband is a bit of a wimp when it comes to killing even rats!) which worked, but after we'd released him twice, some considerable distance away, he kept coming back!

              So in the end I resorted to poison (I am less bothered about killing vermin) and that did the trick. I used the stuff that they take back to the nest and the rest of the rats die too. It was cheap buy - I got it from B&Q - and worked quickly.

              So you can get rid of rats and mice yourself - if you're tough enough.

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                #37
                No hot water, mice and construction noise

                I'm tenant and and want to know with regard to a few issues with our flat, if rent reduction for any of these is possible?:

                - we haven't had hot water for 12 days now, the landlady is informed, yet hasn't done anything about it.

                - we've had mice in our 3rd floor flat in this new built development, probably due to a double lining drywall system (we have heard them a few times running around behind the drywalls) - in one instance a mouse destroyed bits of carpet whilst trying to get out from a corner of a room (are we liable to pay for this or our landlady?) - but generally: it shouldn't happen & she should deal with it!

                - there has been construction noise from an adjacent property with a multi-storey development which has been erected at the party wall of our flat - the noise of drilling, hammering, form work etc. was often horrendous and as I'm working from home often allow me to work during daytime working hours.
                We've approached our landlady with regards to possible rent reduction due to environmental noise, yet with no effect - can we do anything else about it?

                Currently the lack of hot water due to a boiler problem is the main issue - can we withhold rent for that?

                Many thanks for your answers!!!

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                  #38
                  Hot water/boiler: L is probably committing a criminal offence! See s.11 of Landlord and Tenant Act 1985.
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                    #39
                    Has she not done anything about it or is it in hand? Just as a comparison, we've been without direct hot water at home now for 10 days and still waiting for a competent plumber to turn up and fix our boiler. Have you asked what the situation is? Sometimes it does take a little while.

                    I think it's a bit difficult to say mice shouldnt happen. They do, unfortunately. Have you put traps down? Have you spoken to other residents about the problem and getting together to sort it. There's not much the landlord can do about one single flat in the block as I would assume they are coming in at ground level and not somehow arriving at the third floor!

                    I really can't see that the landlord is to blame for the fact that there is building work going on next door, thats outside her control. Are they making the noise at unsociable hours?


                    Originally posted by interested View Post
                    I'm tenant and and want to know with regard to a few issues with our flat, if rent reduction for any of these is possible?:

                    - we haven't had hot water for 12 days now, the landlady is informed, yet hasn't done anything about it.

                    - we've had mice in our 3rd floor flat in this new built development, probably due to a double lining drywall system (we have heard them a few times running around behind the drywalls) - in one instance a mouse destroyed bits of carpet whilst trying to get out from a corner of a room (are we liable to pay for this or our landlady?) - but generally: it shouldn't happen & she should deal with it!

                    - there has been construction noise from an adjacent property with a multi-storey development which has been erected at the party wall of our flat - the noise of drilling, hammering, form work etc. was often horrendous and as I'm working from home often allow me to work during daytime working hours.
                    We've approached our landlady with regards to possible rent reduction due to environmental noise, yet with no effect - can we do anything else about it?

                    Currently the lack of hot water due to a boiler problem is the main issue - can we withhold rent for that?

                    Many thanks for your answers!!!

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                      #40
                      Clause in AST for Pest control

                      Hi.
                      Does anyone have a suitable clause that I can add to my AST that states the tenant is liable for any costs owing due to pest control services?

                      Cheers
                      SCL

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by Southcoast Landlord View Post
                        Hi.
                        Does anyone have a suitable clause that I can add to my AST that states the tenant is liable for any costs owing due to pest control services?

                        Cheers
                        SCL
                        I don't think you can insert a 'blanket' clause covering all instances of pest control, because it may be an unfair term. If pest control has to be brought in to eradicate a problem not of the tenants' making, why should they have to pay for it? It's your property!

                        You may be able to include something to the effect that if it can be demonstrated that the problem was due to tenants' lifestyle (e.g. leaving bags of rubbish lying around which attract vermin), then they will be liable for cost of pest control.
                        'Pause you who read this, and think for a moment of the long chain of iron or gold, of thorns or flowers, that would never have bound you, but for the formation fo the first link on one memorable day'. Charles Dickens, Great Expectations

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                          #42
                          You could use something like the words of your post ie. "the tenant is responsible for the cost of services provided by pest control officers".
                          However, such a clause would be unusual and might worry potential tenants.

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                            #43
                            It's quite in order to make tenants responsible for insect/pest extermination but only if the landlord has taken all reasonable precautions to prevent access by rodents etc.
                            The advice I give should not be construed as a definitive answer, and is without prejudice or liability. You are advised to consult a specialist solicitor or other person of equal legal standing.

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by Paul_f View Post
                              It's quite in order to make tenants responsible for insect/pest extermination but only if the landlord has taken all reasonable precautions to prevent access by rodents etc.
                              Is the implication that pest infestation is always the tenants' fault, then?
                              'Pause you who read this, and think for a moment of the long chain of iron or gold, of thorns or flowers, that would never have bound you, but for the formation fo the first link on one memorable day'. Charles Dickens, Great Expectations

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                                #45
                                No, but as the T occupies the premises then L can't be held responsible to rid same of pests when he doesn't live there. It's a situation beyond the L's control so it's the T's responsibility usually by implication.
                                The advice I give should not be construed as a definitive answer, and is without prejudice or liability. You are advised to consult a specialist solicitor or other person of equal legal standing.

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