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    #1

    Gas Safety Certificate

    Hi there I wonder if you could advise me please.

    I moved into a rented property in December 2012 - signed all the paperwork and paid a deposit.

    Two days before moving in, I received a call from the letting agent that the landlady had left the Gas Safety check until the last minute and it had unfortunately failed.

    There was a gas leak in the kitchen - could be the boiler or the hob - but the gas/heating/cooker would be off until it was fixed after Christmas.

    It was inconvenient but I got through Christmas and the plumbers then came and replaced both boiler and hob. A week passed and no sign of a Gas Safety Certificate so I emailed the letting agent who sent me the GSC from when the leak was identified.

    I asked if a new certificate had been issued for the new appliances and was told they aren't required to provide one - the existing GSC stating the failures and that the gas had been shut off is sufficient to meet the landlords legal requirements.

    Is this right?

    I might just be worrying over nothing but I'd feel better with a certificate confirming all is safe than one identifying a leak 'somewhere in the kitchen'. If I'm not entitled to a new one then obviously I'll drop the issue.

    Many thanks in advance

    Lola
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    #2
    A new boiler install and hob should have new installation certificates.

    Legals aside. From a practical point of view, get a carbon monoxide monitor for the Kitchen (I assume both boiler and hob are in the same room). Gas flames should be blue in proper combustion conditions so set up the CO monitor, keep a visual check on the flames and harass the agent for the up to date certs.

    If they are not forth coming then leave. Bad LLs and LAs can only continue whilst people rent property from them.
    There is always scope for misinterpretation.

    If my posts can be interpreted in two ways, one that makes you feel angry and one that doesn't, I meant the latter.

    Everyday is an opportunity to learn something new.

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      #3
      I agree. And after you have left, report your LL to the council EHO.
      'Pause you who read this, and think for a moment of the long chain of iron or gold, of thorns or flowers, that would never have bound you, but for the formation fo the first link on one memorable day'. Charles Dickens, Great Expectations

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        #4
        Good point.

        I'd like to clarify that my advice re the flames etc... are informal checks that the layman can use to keep them [personally] safe and to judge whether they need professional / competent advice. They should not be used to justify whether a Gas Safe certificate / test is required.

        A battery powered CO monitor should be part of every tenants property along with a smoke detector. After all, it's really hard to attend Court when you dead.
        There is always scope for misinterpretation.

        If my posts can be interpreted in two ways, one that makes you feel angry and one that doesn't, I meant the latter.

        Everyday is an opportunity to learn something new.

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          #5
          On this subject, is there a legal requirement/timescale for a LL to produce a Gas certificate to a tenant.?

          I am obviously aware that gas appliances within a tenant property should be issued every 12 months

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            #6
            Originally posted by josh123 View Post
            On this subject, is there a legal requirement/timescale for a LL to produce a Gas certificate to a tenant.?
            Yes.
            For new tenants a copy must be provided before they occupy the property.
            For existing tenants a copy must be provided within 28 days of the check.

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              #7
              See (If anyone needs to point this out to a Landlord, Tenant or Agent..)
              http://www.gassaferegister.co.uk/PDF..._factsheet.pdf

              Record

              A record of this annual gas safety check will include specific information. A copy of the gas safety record must be provided to an existing tenant within 28 days of the check being completed or to new tenants before they move in. Landlords must keep copies of the record for two years.
              I am legally unqualified: If you need to rely on advice check it with a suitable authority - eg a solicitor specialising in landlord/tenant law...

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                #8
                And the 'master' reference is the Gas Safety (Installation and Use) Regulations 1998, regulation 36(6).
                http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1...lation/36/made

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