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    Is a Electrical Safety Certificate now compulsory for all landlords?

  • #2
    Originally posted by Uncle Fester View Post
    Is a Electrical Safety Certificate now compulsory for all landlords?
    It might be for work at their properties but not necessarily for the individual's body.
    Except Gary Numan- his friend's electric.
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    • #3
      Not to my knowledge

      http://www.landlordzone.co.uk/electrical_safety.htm

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      • #4
        Jeffrey; sheer class.
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        • #5
          I just had a periodic test on a one bed flat (the one recommended every 5 years) It came back as 'unsatisfactory' . I take it that anything picked up with a level 1 catagory must be attended to, or it would make the LL negligent ?
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Bel View Post
            I just had a periodic test on a one bed flat (the one recommended every 5 years) It came back as 'unsatisfactory' . I take it that anything picked up with a level 1 catagory must be attended to, or it would make the LL negligent ?
            What was considered unsatisfactory?
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Paragon View Post
              What was considered unsatisfactory?
              Its the overall rating for the whole of the inspection, the only other rating possible is 'satisfactory'

              Catagory 1 (ie "requires urgent attention") observations on this report include
              No gas or water main bonding
              meter tails & main earth wire inadequate size
              No supplementary RCD protection for socket outlets
              Distribution board insufficient circuit way/obsolete type
              Supplementary bonding in Bathroom required
              Marking, labelling and identfication of installation unsatisfactory

              There are some catagory 2's also ( " requires improvement")
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Bel View Post
                Its the overall rating for the whole of the inspection, the only other rating possible is 'satisfactory'

                Catagory 1 (ie "requires urgent attention") observations on this report include
                No gas or water main bonding
                meter tails & main earth wire inadequate size
                No supplementary RCD protection for socket outlets
                Distribution board insufficient circuit way/obsolete type
                Supplementary bonding in Bathroom required
                Marking, labelling and identfication of installation unsatisfactory
                Many of these items are things which would have been deemed perfectly OK until very recently, this is just up-to-the-minute interpretation of the regs. I would say the more significant items were the lack of gas/water bonding, and supplementary bonding in the bathroom... and I'd be interested to know why they weren't raised as issues 5 years ago?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Ericthelobster View Post
                  Many of these items are things which would have been deemed perfectly OK until very recently, this is just up-to-the-minute interpretation of the regs. I would say the more significant items were the lack of gas/water bonding, and supplementary bonding in the bathroom... and I'd be interested to know why they weren't raised as issues 5 years ago?
                  Because this is the first periodic check since it was installed +30 years ago !!!

                  I just need opinions of what is safe and responsible for a LL; rather than up to regs.

                  So the issues you have raised about bonding are your opinion of what you deem as acceptable for the LL to have to fix, Eric?
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Bel View Post
                    Because this is the first periodic check since it was installed +30 years ago !!!
                    Ah, fair enough - I misunderstood and thought it had last been done 5 years ago.

                    Originally posted by Bel View Post
                    So the issues you have raised about bonding are your opinion of what you deem as acceptable for the LL to have to fix, Eric?
                    I reckoned they were the most important, but I wouldn't like to go so far as to say that it would be acceptable just to fix those because (a) I'm not a qualified electrician and (b) I haven't seen the property or the electrical kit concerned; it makes vague words like "inadequate" and "insufficient" hard to quantify.

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                    • #11
                      Its funny how much is made of getting a periodic inspection done, but there is not much info regarding how LL's should act on them.

                      I think I will call Trading Standards tomorrow.
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                      • #12
                        I thought getting a certificate was now Law (Since 10/06) for landlords, like the Corgi Gas one is

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Uncle Fester View Post
                          Is a Electrical Safety Certificate now compulsory for all landlords?
                          Its only compulsory for the person managing (landlords) of a HMO, other than HMO's that consist entirely of self contained flats. I should add that its a requirement to have the fixed electrical installation inspected and tested at intervals of not greater than 5 years.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by red40 View Post
                            Its only compulsory for the person managing (landlords) of a HMO, other than HMO's that consist entirely of self contained flats. I should add that its a requirement to have the fixed electrical installation inspected and tested at intervals of not greater than 5 years.
                            But is this law? as I checked with my insurance Co. and they have No idea!!!???

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                            • #15
                              Its a statutory requirement, so yes it is.

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