Rent arrears make no sense to me.

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    Rent arrears make no sense to me.

    This a generic query, does not matter which country or I am paid every 28 days by council so diregard that.

    Basically landlord claims I owe £525 arrears, my working out would be £350 max but more like £300 or less.

    Back in may £50 arrears were owed, rent due is 400 per calendar month, rent paid was £325

    Counting this months due and paid payment is 8 months so £3200 due
    Rent paid is £2600 so including arrears is £650

    £300 already paid off so max £350

    The confusion may arise as originally back in may due to the 28 day payment it came about 10 days late, and 3 days earlier every month means it is paid at beginning of this month so about 2 weeks early but still as I say I am counting payments made not the dates.

    Is there another way of looking at it?

    #2
    Ask him for a rent statement.
    I am legally unqualified: If you need to rely on advice check it with a suitable authority - eg a solicitor specialising in landlord/tenant law...

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      #3
      Originally posted by duomaxwell View Post
      Is there another way of looking at it?
      Yes: Pay your rent in full and on time.

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        #4
        the other way of looking at it

        Originally posted by jjlandlord View Post
        Yes: Pay your rent in full and on time.
        Absolutely.

        The fact is
        - Eight periods of four weeks is not eight months.
        - Eight months between, say 6 May last and 6 January following is, on my calendar, 35 weeks exactly.

        If you are receiving payments four weekly, a 35 week interval may include 8 payments, or it may include 9 payments. We cannot tell from here.

        Write out a rent statement for yourself.
        Then see if your statement agrees with statement your landlord gives, after you have asked for this in writing.

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          #5
          Originally posted by jjlandlord View Post
          Yes: Pay your rent in full and on time.

          I would love to, but its the council that pays him late, I would of paid well in advance had I not had identity fraud in my name and someone steal from bank accounts.

          Also I have been asking for months for the top up amount every month but they landlord is always "too busy" to give it till now.
          Originally posted by Sad S View Post
          Absolutely.

          The fact is
          - Eight periods of four weeks is not eight months.
          - Eight months between, say 6 May last and 6 January following is, on my calendar, 35 weeks exactly.

          If you are receiving payments four weekly, a 35 week interval may include 8 payments, or it may include 9 payments. We cannot tell from here.

          Write out a rent statement for yourself.
          Then see if your statement agrees with statement your landlord gives, after you have asked for this in writing.
          Yes I know this which is why I said £350 max as I havent worked out 2 or 3 extra days each month to simplify things, and if I did I would owe less.

          That brings about more confusion as the council says they pay every 28 days but looking at rent statement sometimes it takes 10 days from payment sent to show as paid on statement.

          I was going by the simplest calculations which is why I said £350 max.

          I have a copy of rent statement I can email to someone if they can work it out better than me.

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            #6
            I find it very strange how many tenants suffer from identity fraud and had money taken from their account. I have lost count of the amount of tenants who have told me that when their rent is due.

            Also I am supprised how the local councils manage to keep going with the amount of "miskakes" they make with HB payments especially in the lead up to xmas.

            mmmmmmm

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              #7
              Originally posted by duomaxwell View Post
              Also I have been asking for months for the top up amount every month but they landlord is always "too busy" to give it till now.
              You know how much is the rent and when it should be paid, and you known how much the council pays to the landlord and when they should issue the payment.
              Therefore you know how much to top up, don't blame the landlord on that one.

              Even if the council does pay late on occasions they still do pay so this is a non-issue.

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                #8
                Originally posted by jjlandlord View Post
                You know how much is the rent and when it should be paid, and you known how much the council pays to the landlord and when they should issue the payment.
                Therefore you know how much to top up, don't blame the landlord on that one.

                Even if the council does pay late on occasions they still do pay so this is a non-issue.
                Actually no, the council reduced the payment amount from full down about £50, also the amounts varied over a few months period as some months the council gave more as I had extra money from them, I kept asking for rent statements so I could know what arrears were due and how much was due per month.

                The money has been sitting in my account waiting to be paid and I paid £300 over the period anyway.

                Is this a case of thinking all tenants are guilty? I am good at paying rent normally to the point landlords never really complain about me.

                Wheras this landlord has a list of faults, a roof ready to collapse as they are too tight to pay for repair, plasterwork that collapsed in bathroom, broken washing machine, cheaply installed cupboards that fell off the first time I used them, and a biggie is that he is too lazy to repair lights in stairway requiring everyone in block to carry torches to enter or leave building.

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                  #9
                  For crikeys sake - this is simple maths

                  Open up Excel or Google Docs - theres even an appropriate template in the latter https://drive.google.com/previewtemp...EE&mode=public

                  shove in all the amounts you or housing benefit have paid and an entry for each due rent payment and it will tell you if you are in credit or debit and by how much.

                  Ignore the £50 'arrears' issue - that in itself may have been a mistake - go back at least until when you knew you were up to date but preferably to the start of the tenancy.

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                    #10
                    When did you move in and on what day of the month is the rent due?

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                      #11
                      At least it sounds like you know there are 13 4 week periods in a year, rther thn 12.

                      I've had great fun tryig to explain that one.

                      With part payments etc set it up as a weekly payment sheet and have a column to keep the balance rolling, I find it easier than a set month one then there are spaces for prt payment and top up - as some months there should be 2xrent and2xtopup.

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