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    Can anyone advise me on the following please.

    My property is attached to a very large townhouse to which a mother and her two children occupied a couple of years ago.
    Since they have occupied the property it seems a few other people have moved in and the drug use and dealing is quite unbelievable. I am now on my fourth tenant is just under 2 years.
    The police have raided the house and broken down the front door several times but have never found any drugs at the property. The noise levels are horrendous at all times of the day, through the night into early hours. They have 2 very large dogs and are extremely abusive people. The shouting and screaming is quite frightening.
    After months and months of calling the police and council etc to try and locate the landlord, I finally managed to get his contact details. I contacted him immediately and found that he was quite aware of the on goings and only lived about 5 minutes away.
    I had a 3 hour conversation with him and feel I have got absolutely nowhere. He seems to know a lot about residential lettings and advised me he has been a landlord for almost 30 years. When I asked if he was going to give his tenant notice he told me he couldn’t give them notice as he didn’t have a valid reason to. He told me he needed proof as to why he is asking them to vacate.
    He told me that if they find drugs or he can prove they are drug users he will issue the notice. He told me if he doesn’t have a valid reason the tenants could take him to court for issuing the section 21.

    Can anyone advise/help me with this please? I don’t know what to do next


    Tell him that the tenants cannot take him to court for issuing a Sec 13 notice.
    Tell him that if he wants help, you will help him to prepare it, and if he is prosecuted for issuing it(no other reason)you will pay his fine.
    Allow tenants to protect their own deposits. I want free money when they do it wrong


      Well, the other landlord is talking cobblers about the s21 leading to any trouble for him (other than irate tenants kicking HIS door in!).

      However, what you can practically do to force him to evict them is another matter. If there are no better ideas, do you think he would comply if YOU offered to handle / pay for the eviction for him?


        Thank you for your comments.

        Is there anyway the tenants can take him to court for issuing a S21? Does a landlord need a valid reason to do this.


          I am not sure how you didn't get this from our responses, but:

          A tenant cannot take a landlord to court for issuing a Sec 21.
          A landlord does not need any reason for issuing a Sec 21, let alone a valid one.
          Allow tenants to protect their own deposits. I want free money when they do it wrong


            Originally posted by Gem233 View Post
            Is there anyway the tenants can take him to court for issuing a S21?
            Does a landlord need a valid reason to do this.
            A s.21 notice is a statutory notice, served by a landlord on an AST tenant, when the LL wishes to apply for possession. It should be obvious that the tenant cannot claim against a LL for serving a notice which statute requires the LL to serve.

            The T may, however, defend the LL's application for possession if he has cause to believe that the s.21 notice is invalid or defective.

            The LL does not need to give any reason why he is applying for possession. If his notice is valid, the court will make a possession order.


              I suspect LL is fobbing you off and doesn't want to evict them.
              I'm a good tenant with great landlords
              I'm also a living, breathing, fully cooked female.


                Is the next door property an HMO?


                  If the neighbours are acting in an anti-social manner creating excessive noise then you need to contact the Environmental Health department and report the noise polution. This will start official procedings that the neighbouring LL cannot ignore.
                  There is always scope for misinterpretation.

                  If my posts can be interpreted in two ways, one that makes you feel angry and one that doesn't, I meant the latter.

                  Everyday is an opportunity to learn something new.


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