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    Can my landlord insist that I call her to let her know whenever I have someone visit me even if it's just for a couple of hours?

    I live in a bedsit and have a residential landlord (sharing the kitchen and bathroom).

    She says I have to let her know when they arrive so she knows they're on the premises, and when they leave. I've never had this before and it seems a bit of an invasion of privacy?

    #2
    Sounds like you are a lodger, rather than a tenant. Lodgers have few rights and LL can set the rules as they go along (within reason of course).

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      #3
      The issue is that as a lodger you have very few rights. The landlord can tell you to leave with very short notice. So its irrelevant what we think about the terms, as it's the landlord's prerogative. So you either get along and agree some terms, or maybe it's worth finding somewhere else to live.
      All views posted reflect my personal opinion only and do not constitute professional advice which I am not qualified or knowledgeable enough to provide.

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        #4
        Thank you for the replies. So it looks like I have to call her each time to let her know. Feels strange doing that in my 40s but such is life. Feels like I have no privacy at all.

        I have an AST, does that make any difference? I think she gave me the wrong one when I moved in.

        As soon as I can I want to move out and get somewhere else definitely but I still have another 5 months on my tenancy agreement.

        Thanks again.

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          #5
          The contract you signed is inapplicable as you cannot have an AST with a resident landlord. You are a lodger, not a tenant and you do not have to stay 6 months if you don't want to.

          Just give her notice (whatever suits you) and go. Tell her why.
          'Pause you who read this, and think for a moment of the long chain of iron or gold, of thorns or flowers, that would never have bound you, but for the formation fo the first link on one memorable day'. Charles Dickens, Great Expectations

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            #6
            When you say you have to call her each time you have a guest, what do you mean? If you are actually sharing the property with her, surely she will know when you have a guest? Does she mean you to call her when she is out aswell?

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              #7
              Hi - yes she said when she's out as well, and if I can't get her on the phone then send a text. She said it was for the insurance purposes so she knew who was on the property at all times.

              If I can leave that would be wonderful - I'd be handing in my notice asap.

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                #8
                She may try to argue that you have a valid contract and are bound to see out the fixed term, but if she lives on the premises and shares the facilities with you, you are a lodger and AST rules do not apply. She was foolish to give you an AST agreement as that can be taken to mean you have additional rights that a lodger would not. However, just tell her as a lodger you are not legally bound by the agreement she has given you in error, and due to her pedantic rules over occasional visitors, you feel unable to continue living there.

                Did you pay a deposit when you moved in?

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                  #9
                  Hi - yes I did, I paid a month's deposit. I was told by the agency it was put in a deposit scheme, but having checked it hasn't been. I was told before moving in the landlord didn't live there, it was only after I moved in I found out she in fact did.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by apples View Post
                    Hi - yes I did, I paid a month's deposit. I was told by the agency it was put in a deposit scheme, but having checked it hasn't been. I was told before moving in the landlord didn't live there, it was only after I moved in I found out she in fact did.
                    Then the agent or your LL should return your deposit.
                    'Pause you who read this, and think for a moment of the long chain of iron or gold, of thorns or flowers, that would never have bound you, but for the formation fo the first link on one memorable day'. Charles Dickens, Great Expectations

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by LesleyAnne View Post
                      She may try to argue that you have a valid contract and are bound to see out the fixed term, but if she lives on the premises and shares the facilities with you, you are a lodger and AST rules do not apply.
                      apples is still bound by the contractual fixed term. The fact that it isn't an AST because the LL is resident doesn't 'void' the terms of the contract.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by apples View Post
                        Hi - yes I did, I paid a month's deposit. I was told by the agency it was put in a deposit scheme, but having checked it hasn't been.
                        Deposit protection only applies to AST tenancies.

                        You would only be an AST tenant if the LL is resident in the same building but you have self-contained accommodation/do not share accommodation (such as kitchen, bathroom, living room, but not hallways/stairs) with LL, and the building is a purpose built block of flats.

                        As you share kitchen and bathroom, you're not an AST tenant; you're an excluded occupier, a.k.a. a lodger.

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                          #13
                          Hi - so am I tied to the next 5 months as the AST is invalid, or am I stuck because the length of term still applies despite the AST being the wrong contract?

                          Thank you in advance.

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                            #14
                            Was landlord resident when you moved in?

                            Does your AST say property is (eg) room 3, 63 Acacia Avenue, or jus t 63 Acacia Avenue?
                            I am legally unqualified: If you need to rely on advice check it with a suitable authority - eg a solicitor specialising in landlord/tenant law...

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                              #15
                              Yes she was resident when I moved in. The AST says the address with no mention of the room number.

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