There is only one way to respond to this. Say to the tenant: "Fancy not being able to sleep on a Muji sofa bed - that's just so lower middle class." You will not hear from here again.
New tenant wants a 'proper bed'..
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Originally posted by mind the gap View PostOK. Offer her a deal whereby you order and pay for (online) a new bed (which you are not obliged to do) and in return she arranges for someone (a charity? the council? a mate? herself?) to dismantle and collect the old one (St Vincent de Paul collect furniture I think although perhaps not old sofa beds), and to arrange delivery and 'mantling' of the new one.
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Originally posted by Lawcruncher View PostThere is only one way to respond to this. Say to the tenant: "Fancy not being able to sleep on a Muji sofa bed - that's just so lower middle class." You will not hear from here again.
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Ha, I agree.
But if you do buy her a new one, don't let her choose it and be sure to lay the law down about using a mattress cover/protector, as otherwise it will be shabby by the end of the first year.
Our tenants must think I'm a real pain over this, as I not only provide one and give them a lecture about it at when they move in, but make a point of checking they are being used whenever I do an inspection. It's no guarantee of course, but tell them how unhygienic it is not to use one and how much it costs to have mattresses steam cleaned these days...it has worked so far for me.'Pause you who read this, and think for a moment of the long chain of iron or gold, of thorns or flowers, that would never have bound you, but for the formation fo the first link on one memorable day'. Charles Dickens, Great Expectations
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Originally posted by sparkie View PostI provide them with mattress protectors too. 100% agree they must use them.
Could you cut and paste your 'lecture'? I think I might incorporate into my terms.. Thanks
They generally humour me, make me a cup of tea then bundle me back into my car again.'Pause you who read this, and think for a moment of the long chain of iron or gold, of thorns or flowers, that would never have bound you, but for the formation fo the first link on one memorable day'. Charles Dickens, Great Expectations
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Originally posted by mind the gap View PostOooh, no, you'd laugh. It starts off like something from Dad's Army and ends up as an incoherent, gibbering rant. For reasons I haven't yet worked out (as I could simply charge them to replace it if it broke), I am equally censorious and grumpy about the need to clean the filter on the tumble dryer, too. I sound like Kim and Aggie and Mary Popppins all rolled into one.
They generally humour me, make me a cup of tea then bundle me back into my car again.
Originally posted by westminster View PostHas this *ever* happened in the history of tenants and tumble dryers, that a tenant has cleaned the filter of the tumble dryer?
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Originally posted by mind the gap View PostHa, I agree.
But if you do buy her a new one, don't let her choose it and be sure to lay the law down about using a mattress cover/protector, as otherwise it will be shabby by the end of the first year.
Our tenants must think I'm a real pain over this, as I not only provide one and give them a lecture about it at when they move in, but make a point of checking they are being used whenever I do an inspection. It's no guarantee of course, but tell them how unhygienic it is not to use one and how much it costs to have mattresses steam cleaned these days...it has worked so far for me.
Though I must say that foam only having a 5 year life seems strange; it must depend on the type of foam you choose, but then I like hard beds and resilient foam. I'm sure that I had a single piece of foam from 5 to 18.
(queue lecture from MTG about bugs in foam if the foam is more than 15 years old ... :-)
MLRefer Mad Regulators to Arkell vs Pressdram.
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Originally posted by midlandslandlord View Post(queue lecture from MTG about bugs in foam if the foam is more than 15 years old ... :-)
ML
I'm itching now!'Pause you who read this, and think for a moment of the long chain of iron or gold, of thorns or flowers, that would never have bound you, but for the formation fo the first link on one memorable day'. Charles Dickens, Great Expectations
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Originally posted by Lawcruncher View PostI miss it because I just cannot get my towels fluffy.'Pause you who read this, and think for a moment of the long chain of iron or gold, of thorns or flowers, that would never have bound you, but for the formation fo the first link on one memorable day'. Charles Dickens, Great Expectations
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Update:
I emailed her asking:
Could you clarify exactly what are your concerns about the bed?
Her reply:
To be honest I don't feel it's very comfortable as it has a split mattress. I was expecting a normal double bed. Unfortunately I can't accept this. Otherwise I am very happy, its a lovely house and the girls a very nice too. Wardrobes are sorted. I would appreciate if you could organise a proper bed.
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Not sure about her sentence, Unfortunately I can't accept this
I don't think she understands she's not really in a position to demand anything. Almost inferring that if a new bed isn't purchased she may with-hold rent payments? I'm sure that's not her intention. At least I hope it's not.
She is Swiss, so maybe its her interpretation of English, a bit like German where they have very few words to communicate compared to English which is a very rich language.
So she hasn't stated the mattress has sunk-in or faulty. I'm really tempted to,
a). say to her I'm not obliged to do anything, so she understands her position and refer her to the AST which states all furnishings etc. are taken on by the tenant “as is” and No demands or liability shall be placed on the landlord/agent for their renewal or change. (Unless at the landlord/agent’s sole discretion.)
b). then mention on this occasion I am prepared to pay for a mattress topper or full height mattress which she can position over the sofa-bed so she will not feel the split mattress.
What do you think?
She could turn around and say its not acceptable based on her previous tone/attitude. So I really want to circumvent this. Any ideas what I can add to my reply to her to make her understand that she's not in any position to make demands.
I will remind her of course that previous tenants have never had any issues or complaints.
She is a new tenant, so I do want to address her complaint and maintain good relations, but at the same time I want to make it clear what's on the table.
Your thoughts/advice?
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I think that you give her the benefit of the doubt as far as the phrase 'I can't accept this' is concerned. 'For all you know it could be the nearest translation she can come up with for 'I'm not happy about this' or 'I can't sleep on this [bed]' or 'I can't bear this [bed]' And she does say she would appreciate it if you organised a proper bed.
She seems keen to placate you otherwise and you don't want the hassle of her moving out and disappearing mid tenancy...so I would stick with our cunning plan, Baldrick.
Buy the girl a bed!'Pause you who read this, and think for a moment of the long chain of iron or gold, of thorns or flowers, that would never have bound you, but for the formation fo the first link on one memorable day'. Charles Dickens, Great Expectations
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