I am writing from the point of view of the tenant in a situation, though am also an interested landlord.
My child (T1) wishes to enter into a joint tenancy agreement with two unrelated tenants (T2,T3). She has an employment contract for 6 months in the area (which might be extended), as do T2 and T3. The agent accepted an "arrangement fee" and tenant checking fees from T1-3 (circa £500), agreed to a tenancy on behalf of L, and only afterwards produced a tenancy agreement which is of 1 year duration with a 6 month break clause (2 months notice either way after 4 months). The tenants had required a 6 month initial tenancy, and were presented with this as "equivalent" - and the L is said to refuse variation to the agreement.
I am reluctant for her to sign.
My understanding (which may not be correct) is that the break clause after the 6 month fixed term would only become actionable if all 3 tenants agreed to serve notice. If all did not, then the tenants wishing to leave at six months would remain liable for rent for the full 1 year term, and subletting could be prevented by either the landlord or the remaining T. This would seem to be extremely dangerous for all tenants.
My inclination is to advise her not to enter into such an agreement unless the agents agree to a 6 month tenancy, or all three Ts agree in advance to serve notice immediately after signing the agreement.
a) Would other members have a view here?
Three subsidiary questions arise:
b) The tenancy agreement has a clause allowing the agent to levy a fee of wholly unspecified magnitude to cover their costs if the agreement is terminated early, and to subtract such costs from the deposit. Would serving notice after the fixed period (but still within the term of the agreement) be regarded as early termination, and how is this appropriate in any case? It would seem to me that serving notice after the fixed period, if allowed by an agreement, does not constitute "early termination".
c) Given that Ts were only shown the agreement after forking out cash, would there be general agreement here that T checking fees and the so called "arrangement fee" should be refunded if Ts refuse to go ahead on the basis of the proposed agreement? Can agents rename what is effectively a holding deposit (an arrangement fee) and thereby get out of the general provisions that would apply to a holding deposit? Given that the only "consideration" here is the production of a mutually acceptable agreement, there is no contract which allows this deposit or checking fees to be to be retained.
There is little alternative accommodation (over a barrel scenario), so I will not be popular if I persuade them to walk away. As someone who is mainly a landlord, I can see why we manage to get such a bad reputation.
Many thanks to all
My child (T1) wishes to enter into a joint tenancy agreement with two unrelated tenants (T2,T3). She has an employment contract for 6 months in the area (which might be extended), as do T2 and T3. The agent accepted an "arrangement fee" and tenant checking fees from T1-3 (circa £500), agreed to a tenancy on behalf of L, and only afterwards produced a tenancy agreement which is of 1 year duration with a 6 month break clause (2 months notice either way after 4 months). The tenants had required a 6 month initial tenancy, and were presented with this as "equivalent" - and the L is said to refuse variation to the agreement.
I am reluctant for her to sign.
My understanding (which may not be correct) is that the break clause after the 6 month fixed term would only become actionable if all 3 tenants agreed to serve notice. If all did not, then the tenants wishing to leave at six months would remain liable for rent for the full 1 year term, and subletting could be prevented by either the landlord or the remaining T. This would seem to be extremely dangerous for all tenants.
My inclination is to advise her not to enter into such an agreement unless the agents agree to a 6 month tenancy, or all three Ts agree in advance to serve notice immediately after signing the agreement.
a) Would other members have a view here?
Three subsidiary questions arise:
b) The tenancy agreement has a clause allowing the agent to levy a fee of wholly unspecified magnitude to cover their costs if the agreement is terminated early, and to subtract such costs from the deposit. Would serving notice after the fixed period (but still within the term of the agreement) be regarded as early termination, and how is this appropriate in any case? It would seem to me that serving notice after the fixed period, if allowed by an agreement, does not constitute "early termination".
c) Given that Ts were only shown the agreement after forking out cash, would there be general agreement here that T checking fees and the so called "arrangement fee" should be refunded if Ts refuse to go ahead on the basis of the proposed agreement? Can agents rename what is effectively a holding deposit (an arrangement fee) and thereby get out of the general provisions that would apply to a holding deposit? Given that the only "consideration" here is the production of a mutually acceptable agreement, there is no contract which allows this deposit or checking fees to be to be retained.
There is little alternative accommodation (over a barrel scenario), so I will not be popular if I persuade them to walk away. As someone who is mainly a landlord, I can see why we manage to get such a bad reputation.
Many thanks to all
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