Getting lumbered with £1000 of other peoples bills!!!! Help please!

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    Getting lumbered with £1000 of other peoples bills!!!! Help please!

    Hi,
    I have 3 months left on a 12 month lease where i have rented a locked bedroom in a shared house originally of 7 people, currently only 4 of us remain, however the other three will be moving out in 2 months, in the third month however the quarterly bills come in, electric, gas and water. I have no way of determining how much i have used personally, as im just given a figure for the quarterly from the electric company, which means no matter what i do i get stuck with a disproportionate amount, which based on our last bill could be almost £1000!!!

    There is no way i can afford any more than my share of the bill, what is my legal position on this? I am a full time student so have no way of raising more cash, not that i should have to pay anyways!

    thanks in advance to anyone who can help.

    #2
    Whos name is the bill in? What does the contract say about utilities?

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      #3
      What does your user name mean?
      I am legally unqualified: If you need to rely on advice check it with a suitable authority - eg a solicitor specialising in landlord/tenant law...

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        #4
        Water is in landlords name, electric and water is in mine as i was the first to move in.

        From memory the contract says we are responsible for our portion of the bills, however it does not mention what to do in cases where some people have moved out before the quarterly has come in.

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          #5
          Originally posted by theartfullodger View Post
          What does your user name mean?
          Nothing, its just from the matrix films, when the robots attack the human city "zion"

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            #6
            You WILL have to estimate the useage from previous bills, and divide
            by the number of people there to which the bill relates to.

            You can give them an over estimated estimate of what their share will
            be, and you want paying in advance of them leaving.
            They used the electric, they have to pay for it, and you will adjust their
            bill if the costs come out less that you estimated.

            They should leave you a deposit of "on account", and you will refund
            the difference or ask for more if your estimate was too low.

            They wont want to do it, and they wont want to leave a forwarding
            adress either, but thats what may happen, so next time you know not
            to put your your name ona bill that 7 people use.

            R.a.M.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Zionburns View Post
              Water is in landlords name, electric and water is in mine as i was the first to move in.

              From memory the contract says we are responsible for our portion of the bills, however it does not mention what to do in cases where some people have moved out before the quarterly has come in.
              So, you take a meter reading when your housemates leave and tell them what they owe you.

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                #8
                I am moving out 1 month after them, do i really have to be the landlords debt collector?

                Im only contractually responsible for my share of the bill, cant i just pay that and leave the landlord to chase his tenants?

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                  #9
                  If the electric and gas(?) are in your name then the electricity and gas companies have a contract with you and will be chasing you until they get paid. If the bill isn't paid, you will be the one getting a CCJ.

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                    #10
                    Post number 4 states you are responsible for paying ALL the electric,
                    as it's in your name.

                    The contract with the landlord states "we are all responsible for our
                    portion of the bills".

                    The bill is in your name, and the landlords contract protects you
                    from having to pay all the bill, and it's up to you to ask for the money
                    from the other people, as it's in your name, not the landlords name.

                    That's how it works. The landlord owes nothing to the electric company,
                    so can not ask the others for a contribution to something he does not
                    pay, and has no contract with the electric company to pay.

                    Take a meter reading, add 30%, and say, if it worksout cheaper, i
                    will send you the difference.

                    R.a.M.

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                      #11
                      fair enough i will have to try that, i can see myself getting badly burned when they refuse to pay anything in advance.

                      thanks for the help.

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                        #12
                        Why would they have to pay in advance? Get a meter reading when they move out and ask them to confirm that they are happy with it. Then ring the supplier and say you need a bill calculation up to that day with the meter reading you provided. But even if you cant get that, you should be able to calculate a bill yourself. Tell them what they have to pay and they can pay you as they leave,

                        Obviously that is assuming they WANT to pay. If they want to just disappear, you are still liable for the bill, given it is in your name. Your final alternative is to ask the LL for a deposit deduction for the other sharers' unpaid bills
                        All views posted reflect my personal opinion only and do not constitute professional advice which I am not qualified or knowledgeable enough to provide.

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                          #13
                          because they dont move out at the same time. one moves out one week then another another etc. id be getting a new bill every other week. not only this but we dont talk to eachother either, i barely even see them to be honest due to the fact they only ever seem to be awake at night.

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                            #14
                            Who does the deposit get returnered to on the property?

                            Also, I'm not sure the LL can withold moneys for bills not in their name and it's not their money to withold (I'm always happy to be proved wrong

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Zionburns View Post
                              because they dont move out at the same time.
                              Hence asking for money in advance of receiving the bill.

                              You may have to use algebraic quadratic equations to come to each
                              individuals useage ( a simple enough matter for anyone ).

                              R.a.M.

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