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    Student bed wrecked where do I stand on replacing it?

    A student who replaced a drop out student, has damaged a double bed in her room, it is dropped in the middle and cannot be repaired, I have asked for 190 to replace it 110 for the bed and 80 for fuel and time to assemble and remove and tip old bed!

    They want to sort this at the end of the tennancy? Why not now I don't know? If they will?

    Do I have the right to take them to court and sort this now?

    Does the tennant have the right to sort it in their own time befor the end of tennancy?

    #2
    How did new student become tenant - assignment or new tenancy??
    I am legally unqualified: If you need to rely on advice check it with a suitable authority - eg a solicitor specialising in landlord/tenant law...

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      #3
      How old was the bed? How old was the matress? How much would a similar bed cost now? Are you planning on replacing the mattress too?

      £80 for fuel sounds a lot, surely it could be bought nearby? I suspect fuel is just a cost of business.

      Is there a deposit? Is it protected? Have you given the tenants the information?

      Is this a joint tenancy, or rented per-room?

      What does the tenancy agreement say about this situation?

      PLUS artfuls very relevant question - does this person even have a tenancy agreement?

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        #4
        Artfullodger- new tennancy agreement was signed with guarantor

        Snorkers- new in oct 2011 mattress is fine

        Rented individual rooms,

        Not got tennancy agreement to hand, but it's pretty good as I got it from Sheffield uni, il root it out

        Also they want to get their own tradesman to assemble bed?

        I'm responsible for the bed if it comes apart!

        House was refurbished back to brick for oct 2010 all furniture was new and matched in each room, and this girls mother is being a prat not like I'm making a profit from this I just want to keep the house to a high standard

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          #5
          £12 for fuel as I live in another town, and the other 68 for my time to sort the beds out

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            #6
            Contract says- repairs and maintainance

            To keep the interior of the property, the internal decorations and the fixtures, furniture and effects in good repair and clean condition( except for damage caused by accidental fire and except for anything which the landlord is liable to repair under this agreement or by law) and to replace if necessary any items of the fixtures, furniture and effects which have been destroyed........ Quote the contract


            Thank you for any help

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              #7
              Generally speaking, tenants have the right to organise repairs and replace broken items like for like before they move out at the end of the tenancy.She is not obliged even to let you in to mend/replace the bed if she feels hassled by you (or even if she doesn't). If she chooses to carry on sleeping in a broken bed, that's her look out. It will end up beyond repair and you will be able to claim the cost of replacing it (minus a percentage for fair wear and tear) from her deposit at the end of the tenancy.

              I take it you have a detailed inventory and the deposit is protected?

              FWIW I am struggling to see where you get £68 for your time from. It doers not take four hours at normal handyman rate of £15 per hour to assemble a new bed and dispose of the old one.

              The fact that you live in another town is neither here nor there and you cannot claim extra fuel for that. What if you lived in the Outer Hebrides, or Canada? Would you claim the air fare? Of course not. You can claim for time and diesel to take the old bed to the tip, but only after the tenancy ends.

              If they are willing to replace the bed and get it assembled, let them. They are not in fact obliged to buy you a new one anyway, just a two year old one (like for like).
              'Pause you who read this, and think for a moment of the long chain of iron or gold, of thorns or flowers, that would never have bound you, but for the formation fo the first link on one memorable day'. Charles Dickens, Great Expectations

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                #8
                So from this, I can expect to have a bed that is the same as the one removed, new in oct 2011~ as it would bring the standard of the house down to have rooms full of random furniture that the tennats decide suits after a few damages? Looking on a few sites they have to agree a suitable replacement with the landlord?
                I'm really disappointed that a tennant can take use of a immaculate room and replace it with any old furniture?

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                  #9
                  "I'm really disappointed that a tennant can take use of a immaculate room and replace it with any old furniture?"
                  That is not what was said, how can it be any old furniture if replaced with same make, model & style. Niether can you benefit by charging T for brand new replacement. I would suggest a 10% deduction off new cost for age of original. You can source new bed in suiable style and arrange delivery. Shop may even take the old one or Ts can arrange Council collection for ~£20. Negotiate!
                  Most beds can be erected in bedroom, with a screwdriver, well within the capabilities of most in half hour.

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                    #10
                    Sorry have I missunderstood you, so I'm entitled to a like for like?

                    The mother is being very hard work about this, investment banker and quibbling over a bed, not having a good year obviously.!

                    As below in the contract should the bed not be replaced ASAP to keep the room in a state of good repair?

                    It's a nightmare all the legal, it would cost more than the bed to get advice argggh!

                    To keep the interior of the property, the internal decorations and the fixtures, furniture and effects in good repair and clean condition( except for damage caused by accidental fire and except for anything which the landlord is liable to repair under this agreement or by law) and to replace if necessary any items of the fixtures, furniture and effects which have been destroyed........ Quote the contract

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by pintman View Post
                      So from this, I can expect to have a bed that is the same as the one removed, new in oct 2011~ as it would bring the standard of the house down to have rooms full of random furniture that the tennats decide suits after a few damages? Looking on a few sites they have to agree a suitable replacement with the landlord?
                      I'm really disappointed that a tennant can take use of a immaculate room and replace it with any old furniture?
                      If the bed was new in October 2011, it is at most seven months old. Find your receipt, which you will have kept for tax purposes, and claim on the warranty. Should take few phone calls at very little expense.
                      Assembling new bed will take an hour at most of a handyman's time.

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                        #12
                        It is not viable to expect the tenant to replace with a matching bed - where is she going to get a 7 month old bed from?

                        I serously wonder if this even needs a new bed - without knowing the construction of the bed it is difficult to guess - but IMHO the worst that is likely to have happened is a few slats broken. As Mariner says, it is probably under warranty &/or the supplier should be able to source parts. If it were me, I'd take a slat to the local builders merchant and get a few similar pieces cut. Maybe the tenant could argue that you supplied a bed that wasn't fit for purpose (not constructed correctly?) if it gave way so soon.

                        If it were my daughter, I would be disputing this too, as your proposals seem a little disproportionate.

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                          #13
                          Can I attach pictures to this? The bed is steel frame (small double) with a central support rail and 3 legs below! The centre supports is twisted and in un-salvageable No warranty will cover damage, supposedly this was damaged during a attack by a boyfriend of the tennant, also had issues with smoking in the room and even found a plastic bag and headband over the smoke detector, the room is filthy, I'm not sure how she got all the dirt up there in two months, I have 11 tennants in three houses all left to get on with ther business that are good tennants, but upon speaking with the mother this is a daughter who came to my house to hide away from a problem boyfriend, lucky me!

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                            #14
                            They are tenants, not tennants...
                            I am legally unqualified: If you need to rely on advice check it with a suitable authority - eg a solicitor specialising in landlord/tenant law...

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by theartfullodger View Post
                              They are tenants, not tennants...
                              You got mo there!

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