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  • Frequent Inspections to find Cannabis Farms

    Noting that the police are finding 20 cannabis farms a day now, doubling in 4 years:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17888762

    And that in some places the rate is well over one per 1000 properties:

    But South Yorkshire had 64 farms for every 100,000 people, the highest per capita in the UK, with 851 farms.
    (working from 65 mill people, and 25 mill properties)

    Is there any good reason / precedent why property inspections cannot be quarterly, rather than the more usual every 6 months, to make it more difficult?

    Obviously on top of thorough referencing etc.

    The problem is that the best property - well insulated, good heating etc - is best adapted for generating high humidity at low power and low cost by simply diabling ventilation. Pah.

    Rgds

    ML
    Refer Mad Regulators to Arkell vs Pressdram.

  • #2
    If a landlord started insisting on quarterly inspections I would change the locks and look for a new landlord (and I've never even smoked weed let alone tried to grow it). It's the job of the police to look for cannabis farms and they seem to be getting good at it, so I'm sure they don't need every landlord to become an unsupervised hobby bobby to help them (and if you do want to help the police becoming a special constable is a far better use of your time and provides a valuable service to the community).
    Disclaimer:

    The above represents my own opinion, derived from personal knowledge and should not be relied upon as definitive or accurate advice. It is offered free of charge and may contain errors or omissions or be an inaccurate opinion of the law. I accept no liability for any loss or damage suffered as a result of relying on the above.

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    • #3
      There's no problem with quarterly inspections, imo. This is already quite a few letting agents proceed.

      Of course, here the bottom of the issue is whether keeping cannabis illegal is the best way forward...

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      • #4
        It's important that utilities are in the tenants name
        otherwise the landlord gets lumped with the very high bill.

        Utility companies already monitor jumps on consumption.

        With flats it is very important to check top floor flats where access to the loft is easy and they are an easy grow area.

        As to inspection frequency that really depends on the tenancy type and an assessment of risk.

        These ought to be planned in advance and carried out as conveniently as possible.
        Based on the information posted, I offer my thoughts.Any action you then take is your liability. While commending individual effort, there is no substitute for a thorough review of documents and facts by paid for professional advisers.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by leaseholdanswers View Post
          It's important that utilities are in the tenants name
          otherwise the landlord gets lumped with the very high bill.

          Utility companies already monitor jumps on consumption.
          .........

          .....
          Aye, but apparently most farmers simply bypass the meter for most of the power used so utility co won't see a jump in bill....


          Cannabis farms?? Another business risk us Landlords take: tough, SUMO...
          I am legally unqualified: If you need to rely on advice check it with a suitable authority - eg a solicitor specialising in landlord/tenant law...

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          • #6
            Originally posted by bhaal View Post
            If a landlord started insisting on quarterly inspections I would change the locks and look for a new landlord (and I've never even smoked weed let alone tried to grow it). It's the job of the police to look for cannabis farms and they seem to be getting good at it, so I'm sure they don't need every landlord to become an unsupervised hobby bobby to help them (and if you do want to help the police becoming a special constable is a far better use of your time and provides a valuable service to the community).
            I'm not interested in being an agent or not for the police :-) though I'm very happy to help them.

            I am interested in criminal activity which may cause the door to be broken down leaving me liable for a repair.

            And I'm interested in whether my property has been gutted behind my back and is going to cost £50k and a year of time to repair.

            Slightly more frequent inspections seems to be a reasonable way to deter people looking to start a cannabis farm.

            ML
            Refer Mad Regulators to Arkell vs Pressdram.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by leaseholdanswers View Post
              It's important that utilities are in the tenants name
              otherwise the landlord gets lumped with the very high bill.

              Utility companies already monitor jumps on consumption.
              That will be less effective with good insulation / airtightness; now it is possible to easily build housing that can be heated merely by body heat and a little cooking.

              ML
              Refer Mad Regulators to Arkell vs Pressdram.

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              • #8
                Local police officer (friend of a friend) said most discoveries are from helicopters with thermal imagining.
                I'm a good tenant with great landlords
                I'm also a living, breathing, fully cooked female.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Brb View Post
                  Local police officer (friend of a friend) said most discoveries are from helicopters with thermal imagining.

                  I wondered why they getting flying the house where my flat is !



                  Mind you might be something to do there No loft insulation in part of the loft.

                  Thunderbirds are go

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by 45002 View Post
                    I wondered why they getting flying the house where my flat is !



                    Mind you might be something to do there No loft insulation in part of the loft.

                    Yes that causes them problems. Along with someone local putting a hot tub in their attic! who does that ?!?!?! lol
                    I'm a good tenant with great landlords
                    I'm also a living, breathing, fully cooked female.

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                    • #11
                      If you own property near a hospital with a heli pad then that area is a no fly zone for police helicopters with thermal imagining

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                      • #12
                        Nhs

                        Originally posted by Terry_Baker View Post
                        If you own property near a hospital with a heli pad then that area is a no fly zone for police helicopters with thermal imagining
                        Cannabis farm will be spring up now by hospital

                        gives a whole new meaning to,treatment on the NHS...
                        Thunderbirds are go

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                        • #13
                          We try to do ours every three months, anyone know how long it takes to grow? Im guessing over three months.

                          To make a point though, the electricity to the property is a key indicator and it should SHOOT up. Even if you can not enter the property for whatever reason, check the meter reading compared to the last meter reading.

                          Im not a big fan of Police productivity but "police are finding 20 cannabis farms a day" - they are doing something right. Hurrah!

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                          • #14
                            I inspect my work stuff every 3 months. At the weekend I showed a flat with cellar under (not part of the let). I suspected one of the viewers of being a weed smoker (smell) and alarm bells rang as soon as he expressed interest in the cellar.

                            I have heard that the electricity companies charter or own helicopters that fly about at night testing with thermal imaging equipment for high heat outputs in residential areas. It is they that advise the police.



                            Freedom at the point of zero............

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                            • #15
                              don't think so...

                              Originally posted by YesAdam View Post
                              We try to do ours every three months, anyone know how long it takes to grow? Im guessing over three months.

                              To make a point though,the electricity to the property is a key indicator and it should SHOOT up. Even if you can not enter the property for whatever reason, check the meter reading compared to the last meter reading.

                              Im not a big fan of Police productivity but "police are finding 20 cannabis farms a day" - they are doing something right. Hurrah!
                              No

                              I understand that cannabis farms bypass the meter away due to the High cost of electric used,so pointless taking a meter reading...

                              Originally posted by Interlaken View Post

                              I have heard that the electricity companies charter or own helicopters that fly about at night testing with thermal imaging equipment for high heat outputs in residential areas. It is they that advise the police.
                              Now will know why where paying some of the highest gas and electric bills in the EU,for helicopters

                              Mind you,national grid do use helicopters to check pylons and overhead cables.

                              Originally posted by Interlaken View Post
                              45002,
                              I don't think heat output from zero loft inulation will be similar to that of a cannabis farm. The amount of power these thing consume to heat at 25- 30 degrees C provide adequate light and constantly moving air is considerable not just a 1 bar fire in a roofspace.
                              You be amazed at how much heat is loosed through a uninsulated loft/roof,hire a helicopter and theme imaging camera and go and have a look for yourself.....lol
                              Thunderbirds are go

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