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    Section 21 expiry date - AST expiry date

    Hello everyone,

    Apologies if this question has already been answered - I searched but
    couldn't find

    If the 6 month AST began on the 21st July 2010, and I wish to serve Section 21 Notice with more than 2 months remaining on the tenancy what date shall
    I put the notice to expire - 21st, or after 21st January 2011?

    Also, can you please tell me what the correct syntax is when entering
    the expiry date on the Section21 form?

    Many thanks,

    Simon

    #2
    You need to write After 20th January 2011
    I offer no guarantee that anything I say is correct. wysiwyg

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      #3
      (Not always a dumb question) on the AST what is the stated end date of the fixed term?? 20th Jan 2011??
      I am legally unqualified: If you need to rely on advice check it with a suitable authority - eg a solicitor specialising in landlord/tenant law...

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        #4
        Thanks jta

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          #5
          Hi theartfulloger,

          Tenancy is for 6 months commencing 21st July 2010

          There is no stated end date on the fixed term

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            #6
            Originally posted by //simon\\ View Post
            Hi theartfulloger,

            Tenancy is for 6 months commencing 21st July 2010

            There is no stated end date on the fixed term
            Good! Errors in end dates lead to absurdities (e.g. lettings for six months + one day).
            JEFFREY SHAW, solicitor [and Topic Expert], Nether Edge Law*
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            2. Telephone advice: see http://www.landlordzone.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=34638.
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              #7
              Originally posted by jeffrey View Post
              Good! Errors in end dates lead to absurdities (e.g. lettings for six months + one day).
              Ah yes, that could become a bit weird.

              One to remember, cheers!

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                #8
                Section 21 Expiry Date - Query

                Hello,

                Please would someone be able to confirm what expiry date my section 21 would need to have -
                Assured Tenancy Agreement started on 1st May 2009 until 1 May 2010, the rolled onto a Periodic Tenancy.
                If the notice was served on 24/03/11 should the expiry date read - After the 1st June 2011 or, if later, the day on which a complete period of your Tenancy expires next after the end of two months from the service of your notice
                Thanks in advance for your help
                Holly

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                  #9
                  A. Was it really for one year and one day (1 May 2009 - 1 May 2010)?
                  B. Was rent due monthly in advance during it?
                  C. Is the Notice under s.21(4)(a)?
                  D. Before serving the Notice:
                  a. did you protect T's deposit and give the Prescribed Information to T; and
                  b. (if it's an HMO) did you have it licensed by the Local Housing Authority?
                  JEFFREY SHAW, solicitor [and Topic Expert], Nether Edge Law*
                  1. Public advice is believed accurate, but I accept no legal responsibility except to direct-paying private clients.
                  2. Telephone advice: see http://www.landlordzone.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=34638.
                  3. For paid advice about conveyancing/leaseholds/L&T, contact me* and become a private client.
                  4. *- Contact info: click on my name (blue-highlight link).

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                    #10
                    Hello,

                    A) Yes 1st May 2009 until 1st May 2010
                    B) Monthly
                    C)Yes
                    D)
                    a)Yes & have proof of both
                    b)N/A

                    Thank you
                    Holly

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                      #11
                      Thanks. The term ended on & inc. 1 May 2010. Next day (2 May 2010), the SPT began- and on 2nd. of each subsequent month.

                      To end the SPT, your s.21(4)(a) Notice must:
                      a. give T at least two months' Notice; and
                      b. run-on to & inc. an SPT month end.

                      A Notice served on 24 March would therefore have to run up to & inc. 2 June, not 'after 1 June'. But yours is saved by the or, if later, the day on which a complete period of your Tenancy expires next after the end of two months from the service of your notice. That saving wording tells T that you can begin Possession Proceedings on/after 3 June. OK?
                      JEFFREY SHAW, solicitor [and Topic Expert], Nether Edge Law*
                      1. Public advice is believed accurate, but I accept no legal responsibility except to direct-paying private clients.
                      2. Telephone advice: see http://www.landlordzone.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=34638.
                      3. For paid advice about conveyancing/leaseholds/L&T, contact me* and become a private client.
                      4. *- Contact info: click on my name (blue-highlight link).

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                        #12
                        Thank you Jeffrey, I just wanted to get a secound opinion before I start filling out my court papers. Thanks again

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