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    Having the gas supply connected: who pays?

    I am in the middle of a dispute with my landlord regarding the gas supply.

    When were were shown the flat by the estate agent, we noticed a bayonet fitting sticking out of the wall in the kitchen for a gas oven, and the agent said that it is a working supply for a gas oven. This was one of our desired factors, and we ended up choosing the flat.

    On tracing the pipes, I find that at no stage does the supply from the meter go into this pipe. I contacted the estate agent who is managing the property, and they say that under no terms will they pay for an engineer to create a working supply to this fitting, as any fitting of an appliance must be payed by us.

    I am under the impression that we cannot touch the supply pipes as this belongs to the physical structure (as in our contract), and so we therefore cannot authorise someone to do it either, as we do not have responsibility for it.

    Can someone point me in the direction of some element of law that I can remind them of? They just seem to be trying to avoid paying, despite the fact that having to buy microwaveable only food is costing way more than we had initially budgeted for.

    Many Thanks in advance.

    #2
    It seems that the agent was at fault for saying the gas supply could be connected.

    The landlord may not want you to have gas appliances as he/she would have to have any cooker/oven certified by a Gas Safe engineer to comply with government legislation.

    You can't make the landlord do what he does not want to. Go direct to the landlord and see what their wishes are before connecting up.



    Freedom at the point of zero............

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      #3
      I understand that I am responsible for the gas safety checks of my appliances as per the Landlords and Tenants act, but I am under the impression that to make such a change to the pipework is affecting the supply, and thus would make me in breach of contact (and perhaps S11 L&Tenants Act regarding repair of supply?)

      If the landlord gives me authorisation to get someone to connect the pipes then thats hunky-dory, but its mainly the agents that are getting in the way, insisting that I must pay for everything, as if it was just the hose that needed fitting....

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        #4
        Cac2008, do you have gas anywhere else in the property? If so, is there a gas safety certificate available? Have you had the connection tested for live gas?
        I offer no guarantee that anything I say is correct. wysiwyg

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          #5
          The gas meter is outside on our balcony. The pipe enters directly through the kitchen wall, and one branch goes up into the boiler which operates fine. The rest of the pipe continues unimpeded until it exits the kitchen at the far wall, going into a cupboard where it is capped off. Between the boiler and the wall is the bayonet fitting, which is clearly not connected to any of the supply pipes. The bayonet fitting is intact but simply sticking into the wall. I attempted to just plug in the gas hose as I had one myself to test it, and there was nothing coming out.

          I am still waiting for the landlord to get back to me. He apparently used to live there with a gas cooker, so i'd like to hear where he used to have it.

          There is a gas safety certificate for the property, and it is also due for renewal this month. When the engineer comes round, I might have to ask his professional opinion.

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            #6
            The gas safety cert is not for the property but for the appliances within that property. All gas appliances have to to listed by make and model on the certificate with any comments by the Gas Safe engineer (previously CORGI).



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              #7
              Originally posted by cac2008 View Post
              I understand that I am responsible for the gas safety checks of my appliances as per the Landlords and Tenants act,
              That's not correct.
              The landlord is responsible. If he gets the cooker connected, he then pays more each year to get it checked.

              You should start by writing the letting agent, and detail what was said by them before you took the property on.
              Allow tenants to protect their own deposits. I want free money when they do it wrong

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                #8
                Originally posted by thesaint View Post
                That's not correct.
                The landlord is responsible. If he gets the cooker connected, he then pays more each year to get it checked.

                You should start by writing the letting agent, and detail what was said by them before you took the property on.
                The landlord is not responsible for the tenants own appliances.

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                  #9
                  Another update on this one...

                  It turns out that the gas fitting, that was pointed out by the estate agent on initially viewing the property, has NEVER had a gas supply to it. It is simply a bayonet fitting poking out of the wall, nothing more.

                  I have informed them that I will be paying for an engineer to connect my appliance, but only after they have paid for a contractor to supply this fitting with gas. As it is part of the supply pipes, I have informed them that I have no right to touch or authorise any other to touch, in accordance with the landlords and tenants act.

                  In addition, the inventory came with the description "Gas Cooker Fitting: Appears Capped off". On inspection by the gas safe engineer who inspected the property on the annual inspect, he confirmed that it is TOTALLY disconnected from the supply, and has advised us to seek legal advice and we have been misrepresented.

                  Does this sound correct? I think we have been hard done to, and now Your-Move are trying to say that we need to pay for an engineer to do BOTH jobs!

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