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    Tenant not paid water or council tax question

    Hi Group,

    I have had a tenant move out of my first time let and have new tenants (who seem way nicer people) anyway. upon them moving out i have discovered that they had not paid the coucil tax at all and water rates.

    how would this affect me as the landlord as i dont have a forwarding address. and im not even sure he has set any account up. Although i did inform them when the firdt tenants moved in.

    help!

    #2
    Originally posted by craig
    Hi Group,

    I have had a tenant move out of my first time let and have new tenants (who seem way nicer people) anyway. upon them moving out i have discovered that they had not paid the coucil tax at all and water rates.

    how would this affect me as the landlord as i dont have a forwarding address. and im not even sure he has set any account up. Although i did inform them when the firdt tenants moved in.

    help!
    it wont affect you at all. If these bills are the tenants responsibility it is up to the council and water companies to find them not you.

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      #3
      However you may have the pleasure of numerous threatening letters dropping onto the doormat at your newly let property - warn the new tenants! - and the odd call by debt collectors. It does not seem to matter how many times you tell them that it was a tenant who has disappeared they don't believe you and still send round the debt collectors! They cannot do anything of course but it is a pain...
      Unshackled by the chains of idle vanity, A modest manatee, that's me

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        #4
        Originally posted by islandgirl
        However you may have the pleasure of numerous threatening letters dropping onto the doormat at your newly let property - warn the new tenants! - and the odd call by debt collectors. It does not seem to matter how many times you tell them that it was a tenant who has disappeared they don't believe you and still send round the debt collectors! They cannot do anything of course but it is a pain...
        Mm. Which is why I still make it a condition of refunding an outgoing tenant's damage deposit that they provide proof that all these bills have been paid - makes life much simpler!

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          #5
          I have called the council tax office and they assure me its down to the tenant and the water company did say the same. As long as the bill is in there name it has no come back to me. Which is good news.

          Going to call back again in a week or two, call centre info is not the most reliable in my experiance.

          Craig

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            #6
            Originally posted by craig
            I have called the council tax office and they assure me its down to the tenant and the water company did say the same. As long as the bill is in there name it has no come back to me. Which is good news.

            Going to call back again in a week or two, call centre info is not the most reliable in my experiance.

            Craig
            Craig, thne information you have been given is correct. you dont need to ring back. We are also telling you the same. The bills are the tenants responsibility (unless your AST states otherwise) and just like a bank would not make you pay their credit card bill the utility companies cant make you pay either.

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              #7
              Cool.. thanks for all the replys

              craig

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                #8
                Originally posted by Ericthelobster
                Mm. Which is why I still make it a condition of refunding an outgoing tenant's damage deposit that they provide proof that all these bills have been paid - makes life much simpler!
                Good Idea Mr Lobster
                Unshackled by the chains of idle vanity, A modest manatee, that's me

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                  #9
                  But what would you do if they cant supply "proof" because they have to wait for the final bill to come in? This can take 2 - 3 weeks and very often the tenants need that money to put down on another place ...

                  Originally posted by Ericthelobster
                  Mm. Which is why I still make it a condition of refunding an outgoing tenant's damage deposit that they provide proof that all these bills have been paid - makes life much simpler!
                  Any information or opinion given in this post is based only on my personal experience, what I have learned from this, other boards and elsewhere. It is not to be relied on. Definitive advice is only available from a Solicitor or other appropriately qualified person. E&OE

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                    #10
                    [QUOTE]Which is why I still make it a condition of refunding an outgoing tenant's damage deposit that they provide proof that all these bills have been paid - makes life much simpler!
                    /QUOTE]

                    That's exactly what I was going to ask earlier but couldn't log in.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by pippay
                      But what would you do if they cant supply "proof" because they have to wait for the final bill to come in? This can take 2 - 3 weeks and very often the tenants need that money to put down on another place ...
                      Well - if they provide their final readings etc pronto (ie on the day they leave), it certainly wouldn't take 3 weeks to get a final bill - a few days more likely.

                      Also, I'm afraid it's a fact of life that when moving from one tenancy to another, a tenant will need to provide the deposit on the new property before getting the deposit back on the old property (unless possibly if the old landlord is willing to return it in cash on the final day of the tenancy, which I certainly don't and won't do!) Therefore the tenant will anyway need to have enough funds to cover this eventuality anyway, surely - at least temporarily?

                      That said, for me it's not a hard and fast rule and if a good, reliable and trustworthy ex-tenant was genuinely having problems obtaining "proof" quickly enough, and was desperate for return of his deposit, then I'd oblige.

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                        #12
                        Thanks for clarifying .. although I've had to wait 3 weeks for a final bill - the idiots at BT sent it to my OLD address, even though I'd given them my new one and they'd installed a new phone line there ! and my electricity and gas took 2 weeks despite the fact that the final readings were done and phoned thru the day of moving and in the same phone call the new owners registered their account ...

                        I wasn't disputing the fact that it is sometimes necessary to take your stance - I'm sure it is with some tenants. I was just wondering how you'd approach it for genuine tenants and now you've told me !

                        Originally posted by Ericthelobster
                        Well - if they provide their final readings etc pronto (ie on the day they leave), it certainly wouldn't take 3 weeks to get a final bill - a few days more likely.

                        Also, I'm afraid it's a fact of life that when moving from one tenancy to another, a tenant will need to provide the deposit on the new property before getting the deposit back on the old property (unless possibly if the old landlord is willing to return it in cash on the final day of the tenancy, which I certainly don't and won't do!) Therefore the tenant will anyway need to have enough funds to cover this eventuality anyway, surely - at least temporarily?

                        That said, for me it's not a hard and fast rule and if a good, reliable and trustworthy ex-tenant was genuinely having problems obtaining "proof" quickly enough, and was desperate for return of his deposit, then I'd oblige.
                        Any information or opinion given in this post is based only on my personal experience, what I have learned from this, other boards and elsewhere. It is not to be relied on. Definitive advice is only available from a Solicitor or other appropriately qualified person. E&OE

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