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    Hi I am a landlord of an HMO split into 5 flats let on AST's. We have an escalating dispute between 2 tenants both long standing. Basically one has a girlfriend who spends a lot of time there and is causing disturbance we thought carelessly but there now seems to be an element of malice creeping in since we spoke to both parties to try and calm things down
    Any thoughts or experience of this or ideas how to resolve it?
    Thanks John

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    Originally posted by jonny View Post
    Hi I am a landlord of an HMO split into 5 flats let on AST's. We have an escalating dispute between 2 tenants both long standing. Basically one has a girlfriend who spends a lot of time there and is causing disturbance we thought carelessly but there now seems to be an element of malice creeping in since we spoke to both parties to try and calm things down
    Any thoughts or experience of this or ideas how to resolve it?
    Thanks John
    How heavy handed do you want to get? Eviction under section 8 ground 14 might be sucessful.
    The tenant or a person residing in or visiting the dwelling-house—
    (a) has been guilty of conduct causing or likely to cause a nuisance or annoyance to a person residing, visiting or otherwise engaging in a lawful activity in the locality
    If you do decide to go for this, note that possession is at the judges discretion (ie you might fail) and that you do not need to give any notice on ground 14 - serve the notice, then straight to www.possessionclaim.gov.uk with your credit card.

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      Originally posted by jonny View Post
      Hi I am a landlord of an HMO split into 5 flats let on AST's. We have an escalating dispute between 2 tenants both long standing. Basically one has a girlfriend who spends a lot of time there and is causing disturbance we thought carelessly but there now seems to be an element of malice creeping in since we spoke to both parties to try and calm things down
      Any thoughts or experience of this or ideas how to resolve it?
      Thanks John
      Perhaps give the T the chance to remedy the situation (by banning the girlfriend?!) or face a section 8/section 21 notice. The threat of eviction may just bring him to his senses. Or it may not, in which case you will need to decide how heavy to get, as Snorkerz says.

      In the end though, unless the neighbour has hard evidence of her being a public nuisance, there may be very little the LL can do, in practice.

      By 'causing disturbance', what exactly do you mean?
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        Originally posted by Snorkerz View Post
        How heavy handed do you want to get? Eviction under section 8 ground 14 might be sucessful.


        If you do decide to go for this, note that possession is at the judges discretion (ie you might fail) and that you do not need to give any notice on ground 14 - serve the notice, then straight to www.possessionclaim.gov.uk with your credit card.
        Also use g12 with that g14.
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          Tenants noisy girlfriend

          The disturbance started as just noisy use of shared stairs, thoughtless rather than malicious but when pointed out has now escalated to what seems like deliberate noise both within flat and on stairs. Seems she has a grudge against the original complaint and is going to make them suffer for it.
          Its not ridiculously late or enough to constitute what I understand to be statutory nuisance just subtle enough to drive the other tenant mad.
          I've spoken to her partner( our tenant) but am wary of overdoing it as I dont want to be seen to be harassing him

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            Originally posted by jonny View Post
            The disturbance started as just noisy use of shared stairs, thoughtless rather than malicious but when pointed out has now escalated to what seems like deliberate noise both within flat and on stairs. Seems she has a grudge against the original complaint and is going to make them suffer for it.
            Its not ridiculously late or enough to constitute what I understand to be statutory nuisance just subtle enough to drive the other tenant mad.
            I've spoken to her partner( our tenant) but am wary of overdoing it as I dont want to be seen to be harassing him
            Ridiculous. She needs to grow up - and someone needs to tell her.

            Otherwise bf will have to go.
            'Pause you who read this, and think for a moment of the long chain of iron or gold, of thorns or flowers, that would never have bound you, but for the formation fo the first link on one memorable day'. Charles Dickens, Great Expectations

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