What type of lock (mechanism) is this?

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

    What type of lock (mechanism) is this?

    Hi there,
    Apologies if this is posted in the wrong board; there didn't seem to be one for "Newbie questions about quite obvious things, from someone with little DIY experience" so I hope this is okay to post here :P

    Basically I'm wondering what type of lock this is:

    http ://img208.imageshack.us/img208/6325/img1049xo.jpg
    http ://img94.imageshack.us/img94/1989/img1052k.jpg
    http ://img406.imageshack.us/img406/5349/img1053fz.jpg

    I know that there are some locks/lock mechanisms which are easy to change, and others (mortar locks?) which can be quite specific meaning we'll need to order then from a particular manufacturer etc. But yeah, which type of lock is this and is it a fairly standard one?

    We're considering changing our lock mechanism since our landlord lets himself into our permission without permission.

    Kind Regards,
    James Knight

    (P.S. Apologies for the links - or lack thereof. Seems I need >=10 posts before I can post up 'real' links)

    #2
    Can you let us know the writing on lock at the side of the door?

    Also, does the key look like this?

    Comment


      #3
      It says "FIGHTER" (and then again upside-down).

      And yes, the key is similar to that. Although the head of it isn't rounded, it's more like this:

      http ://espacepropertybg.com/images/door-keys-01.jpg

      And, of course, the key says "FIGHTER" too.

      Comment


        #4
        I suspect it is an annoying proprietry locks that requires you to call a special number to get new keys. I can not see an obvious way to replace the barrel with a standard "Yale" type.

        I would add one those portable rape alarms to your door with double sided sticky tape as that will both demonstrate to the LL that you know he is breaking the law and secondly frighten the life out of him/her/it!

        Comment


          #5
          That's a pain. Yes, it does seem like a propriety lock. I can't find much/any information about "FIGHTER" online.

          Nice suggestion on the door alarm, might do that. Something like:

          http://shop.yale.co.uk/cgi-bin/sh000...A5060#aSAA5060

          Looks perfect actually

          Comment


            #6
            This is what we use on our own home. They are very loud.

            http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=30579

            Comment


              #7
              Originally posted by jamesknight View Post
              How do you know he's deffo been in?

              You might wanna write to him in a friendly but firm manner saying you feel uncomfortable with him visiting without permission, and pointing out he is obliged to ask permission, with 24hr notice.

              Maybe a locksmith would be able to swap it out for a similar type, it does look very particular.

              Comment


                #8
                Originally posted by matthew_henson View Post
                I suspect it is an annoying proprietry locks that requires you to call a special number to get new keys.
                If, so there will most likely be an indicator on the key stating this and/or warning any bona-fide locksmith not to cut replacements keys.

                I would suggest removing the lock at a time when somebody is able to stay in the flat, while one of you high-tails it down to the nearest decent locksmith to be a like-for-like replacement - at the very least they will be able to advise whether it's feasible or not.

                Never heard of "Fighter" brand, and I agree, google is not forthcoming.

                I also agree it would be best to discuss your concerns with the LL first before going down this road - regardless of the moral rights and wrongs of the situation, you may well find yourself being rewarded with an S21 repossession notice if you go ahead.

                Comment


                  #9
                  Originally posted by unhappydisgustingWOW View Post
                  How do you know he's deffo been in?
                  One time we mentioned to him that a repair needed doing and asked him to let us know when someone could come to carry out the repair. We were out one day, and came in to find the repair had been completed (i.e. someone had let themselves in without letting us know, and carried out the repair). Annoying but at least it was for a repair.

                  Another time we came home to find a letting agency (who, of course, the landlord employs) had let themselves into our property and were showing people around it. They didn't notify us. Plus we had 11 months left on our contract!

                  Another time I was out, and at around 8:45am one of the landlord's staff opened the door and walked in when my fiance had just got out of bed. Again, we weren't notified.

                  Originally posted by unhappydisgustingWOW View Post
                  You might wanna write to him in a friendly but firm manner saying you feel uncomfortable with him visiting without permission, and pointing out he is obliged to ask permission, with 24hr notice.
                  We did after the first two times, although he continues to ignore it unfortunately. I've described our situation in another thread; this is more of an end-result than a starting point

                  Originally posted by Mrs Mug View Post
                  This is what we use on our own home. They are very loud.

                  http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=30579
                  That looks great, many thanks. There's a Maplin quite close to where I live; I'll check it out tomorrow.

                  Originally posted by Ericthelobster View Post
                  If, so there will most likely be an indicator on the key stating this and/or warning any bona-fide locksmith not to cut replacements keys.

                  I would suggest removing the lock at a time when somebody is able to stay in the flat, while one of you high-tails it down to the nearest decent locksmith to be a like-for-like replacement - at the very least they will be able to advise whether it's feasible or not.

                  Never heard of "Fighter" brand, and I agree, google is not forthcoming.

                  I also agree it would be best to discuss your concerns with the LL first before going down this road - regardless of the moral rights and wrongs of the situation, you may well find yourself being rewarded with an S21 repossession notice if you go ahead.
                  Thanks for the input.

                  Regarding the last bit; as above, I've outlined why we need to take this step in a previous thread. I agree that if we just randomly did this to be akward, it'd (probably) result in a non-renewal of our contract. As it happens, we're moving out in a few month's time and just want to ensure that LAs and the L don't abuse their position and enter our property without our permission.

                  Comment


                    #10
                    Why not just add an extra lock?
                    Allow tenants to protect their own deposits. I want free money when they do it wrong

                    Comment


                      #11
                      Originally posted by thesaint View Post
                      Why not just add an extra lock?
                      Because that would damage the landlords property.

                      Comment


                        #12
                        Originally posted by Mrs Mug View Post
                        Because that would damage the landlords property.
                        Fitting a lock to a door is something I would be quite willing to explain to a judge in defence of a claim for "Damage", but I see your point.
                        Allow tenants to protect their own deposits. I want free money when they do it wrong

                        Comment

                        Latest Activity

                        Collapse

                        • Reply to Is time more important than money?
                          by Lawcruncher
                          I am not suggesting it is the landlord's fault. I am just saying that, in some cases, if a tenant feels secure he is more likely to take care of a place....
                          27-01-2022, 23:02 PM
                        • Is time more important than money?
                          by jpucng62
                          Just had tenants move out of a property after 2 years. Always paid on time, perfectly pleasant young family who have now bought their own home BUT:

                          House was grimy - looks like they didn't clean properly in 2 years rather than anything overtly unpleasant
                          Garden was left in a mess...
                          27-01-2022, 17:20 PM
                        • Reply to Tenant not paying and letting agent mismanaged
                          by MdeB
                          That is because you have to do things properly for S21 to be valid.

                          Do everything properly and the S21 is valid.
                          Get one thing wrong and it is invalid. There are many things to get right....
                          27-01-2022, 22:54 PM
                        • Tenant not paying and letting agent mismanaged
                          by Beeble
                          We rented a flat out with the local branch of a national estate agent. They were charging a very low fee (that should’ve had my alarm bells ringing) and had a tenant immediately available. This was Dec2020/Jan2021 and the tenancy paperwork they sent to me was minimal.

                          Tenant moved in...
                          25-01-2022, 15:37 PM
                        • Reply to Deducting Cleaning Costs from Deposit
                          by Lawcruncher
                          The requirement comes from the tenancy terms. There are various reasons why a contract term may be void or unenforceable. They include: illegal; impossible; contrary to public policy; statute forbids them to be imposed; unfair. A requirement to keep a dwelling clean and leave it it clean is none of...
                          27-01-2022, 22:20 PM
                        • Deducting Cleaning Costs from Deposit
                          by Piffy
                          I use a Letting Agent. Recently the tenants vacated, prior to the tenants leaving when the letting agent did an inspection they advised the tenants that the property would need cleaning before they vacated. The tenants have now left, the place does need a good clean, the Letting Agents have said that...
                          27-01-2022, 11:30 AM
                        • Reply to Inherited a few rentals
                          by AndrewDod
                          Almost everything is telling you to sell them - far away, no experience, higher rate taxpayer, current environment
                          27-01-2022, 22:04 PM
                        • Inherited a few rentals
                          by Landlord7289
                          Hoping for some advice on this situation from people who may have been through similar...

                          I am inheriting 4 rental properties from my late father. Are there any tips or ideas people would share about this situation?

                          My situation is I am early 30s in full time employment, live...
                          25-01-2022, 15:02 PM
                        • Reply to Deducting Cleaning Costs from Deposit
                          by DoricPixie
                          Lawcruncher,

                          Why does a tenant need to leave the property in a reasonable state of cleanliness if the property wasn't in a reasonable state of cleanliness at the start of the tenancy? Where does the requirement come from? The deposit protection schemes don't appear to take that approach...
                          27-01-2022, 21:11 PM
                        • Reply to Tenant has moved partner in.
                          by Hudson01
                          Totally agree, the classic - still the best. They sound like a nightmare and i would be looking to get rid as soon as i could whilst we still have S21, removing kitchen cupboards !!! In a 2 bed flat...... why the hell would you remove part of a fitted kitchen, what are you going to do with the space....
                          27-01-2022, 20:41 PM
                        Working...
                        X