Hobby business from home- is it in breach of 'residential?

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    #16
    Interesting point.

    I run my business from home and have never made a secret of it. LAs have never had anything to say. But there is no staff, no clients that visit or deliveries of product. It's all conducted over the internet. But nobody would ever know unless I told them.

    But what about say, an independent inventory clerk who ran the business from their home address?

    Likewise, no possible way to affect neighbors via deliveries or clients, apart from hopefully a few extra items of mail containing cheques.

    What about tradesmen, dogwalkers, etc?

    Surely a great proportion of tenants would be technically running a business from their rented accommodation where LL & LA basically couldn't give a toss.

    I can understand the restrictions being valid for say a merchandising operation, or a professional where several clients visit. But in the case of the above and in the case of the OP?
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      #17
      Originally posted by Mars Mug View Post
      I would say no unless you set it up as a business address and start receiveing busuiness post, otherwise no one is likely to know or care that you are making spare cash from what you consider to be a hobby.
      Yes I know it's not obeying the letter of the agreement etc, but really, given all the details of this particular instance, I really think it would be OK just to keep schtum.

      - work is part time and only a few hours per week
      - nobody will visit the property
      - nothing is being physically done or manufactured etc in the property apart from the OP sitting at a PC

      Who's ever going to find out? If you ask the question, you might get an answer of "No", which is not want you want - then you'd be deliberately going against that if you went ahead with it anyway, which might have repurcussions. However, if you just go ahead without asking, I think that if for some reason you did get found out, then you'd be able to argue pretty strongly that what you were doing wasn't actually running a business which was why you felt no need to raise it as an issue.

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        #18
        Whether we are talking about planning control or restrictions attached to tenancies, I think it has to be a question of degree and applying common sense. If you work in an office and take work home that is not going to be a breach. No one would expect an author to rent an office to work in. If you run a shop you can do the accounts at home. Taking in someone's ironing and even a bit of childminding are probably going to be allowed, though running a laundry or a nursery will not.

        Although lawyers quite like the word "whatsoever" it rarely, if ever, adds anything to the meaning.

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          #19
          Originally posted by Lawcruncher View Post
          Whether we are talking about planning control or restrictions attached to tenancies, I think it has to be a question of degree and applying common sense. If you work in an office and take work home that is not going to be a breach. No one would expect an author to rent an office to work in. If you run a shop you can do the accounts at home. Taking in someone's ironing and even a bit of childminding are probably going to be allowed, though running a laundry or a nursery will not.

          Although lawyers quite like the word "whatsoever" it rarely, if ever, adds anything to the meaning.
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            #20
            Originally posted by Ericthelobster View Post
            If you ask the question, you might get an answer of "No", which is not want you want - then you'd be deliberately going against that if you went ahead with it anyway, which might have repurcussions.
            That was my line of thinking. The person you ask has nothing to lose by saying no, and may take a risk by saying yes, so guess what the answer is likely to be.

            Since no one is likely to know about this why does it matter? Also at what point is some form of income considered to be running a business or trade from home? The example given earlier of someone who buys and sells on e-bay is valid isn’t it?

            This is not jonners99’s main employment, but needs to be declared for taxation purposes.

            As for home working on a regular basis for a company, in my case this can lead to issues. The reason being a room has to be set aside for the purpose and has to have a secure network. This can lead to tax implications if the person claims tax relief for the use of the room, the equipment, heating etc. I don’t see this happening in jonners99’s case unless he starts to claim tax relief for the cost of computer equipment, lighting/heating etc.
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              #21
              Effect on property insurance policy? Unauthorised use= insurer refuses to meet claims.
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                #22
                Originally posted by jeffrey View Post
                Effect on property insurance policy? Unauthorised use= insurer refuses to meet claims.
                I wasn't buying 5 contracts of soybeans when my computer blew up, I was surfing porn sites! Honest guv'nor!
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                  #23
                  Can you find another address for the official business address, I use a family member or you could use an accountant. Then I tell the agent that I work from home but that no one will be visiting the premises so it's just a computer on a table, not had any problems with that.
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