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    Go for it Benjamin. I think it would only be of use though, if I was able to enter a particular tenant's name and see that he was included, but scored under 70%. (Otherwise what's the point?)

    Also, a recent tenant of mine, who I have mentioned on here was sharing with three other people. They have taken out loans at the property, and continue to try to do so after leaving. Would I be able to look for names of persons who were resident but not tenants?

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      Originally posted by Benjamin View Post
      We had talked about only including the reviews which were 70% and over. This would eliminate the potential for vindictive landords to give bad reviews.


      Many landlords will provide good references for a poor tenant just to get rid of them.

      You really do need to read the Data Protection Act because there are many requirements that you would need to comply with e.g.

      Can I send personal data overseas?“ – You can’t easily restrict your website to the UK.

      http://www.ico.gov.uk/for_organisations/data_protection.aspx

      http://www.ico.gov.uk/for_organisations/data_protection/notification.aspx

      http://www.ico.gov.uk/for_organisations/data_protection/topic_guides/online.aspx
      I also post as Moderator2 when moderating

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        Originally posted by theartfullodger View Post
        What is your reference number from the data protection "police"????
        i.e. are you Registered Under the Data Protection Act 1998, if so please quote evidence thereof...

        http://www.ico.gov.uk/what_we_cover/..._register.aspx
        I am legally unqualified: If you need to rely on advice check it with a suitable authority - eg a solicitor specialising in landlord/tenant law...

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          The thing is there are a lot of LLs and LAs out there that don't realise that they are the ones in the wrong and label their Ts as bad Ts!, and when I mean they are the ones in the wrong I mean nearly killed their Ts and still ran rough-shod over their rights.

          Names - how are you going to establish that Mr J Smith is the Mr J Smith or a different Mr J Smith ? would have thought NI numbers/DOB is a no no as this would leave Ts open to identity theft.

          I think the whole industry needs regulation.
          I'm a good tenant with great landlords
          I'm also a living, breathing, fully cooked female.

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            Data base for bad tenants-iphone app!

            A new iPhone app has been launched aimed at helping buy-to-let landlords find out if their prospective tenants are on a blacklist for property damage or unpaid rent.

            Lettings specialist Legal 4 Landlords has created the UK's first app for landlords and lettings agents to access up-to-date information on tenants. The app holds a tenant risk list, a nationwide database of more than 4,000 tenants that Legal 4 Landlords has ever dealt with.

            By entering the prospective tenant's name and address, the Legal 4 Landlords app will inform landlords of any misdemeanors linked with the tenant.

            Sim Sekhon, a director at Legal 4 Landlords, said: "We're approached on a daily basis by landlords wanting to do a quick background check on a prospective tenant. These checks can take time, so we thought it made perfect sense to develop an app which will do this in seconds.

            "Unpaid rent in the UK currently amounts to £276m, so landlords need to know if they can trust the tenant they are about to take on."

            The Legal 4 Landlords app also advises landlords on evictions, tenant referencing, rent recovery and tracing missing tenants.The free app is on iTunes

            http://www.independent.co.uk/money/m...s-2268879.html

            Coming soon data base for bad landlords!

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              £5 to your (& my joint) nominated charity if it doesn't get withdrawn or severely restricted within 12 months (feel free to remind me 18/04/2012..).

              So this is "guilty because L4L has had dealings with them" eh????
              a nationwide database of more than 4,000 tenants that Legal 4 Landlords has ever dealt with
              In my time I've had various dealings with (eg..) the Police, Courts, Bailiffs, Sheriff's officers & debt collectors(both sides of the fence in all cases..), but don't feel that gives any of them the right to grass me up to all 'n sundry..

              Careful referencing & collection of loadsa background info, with prospective T's agreement, before parting with the keys still seems, to me at least, the sensible & legal approach.
              I am legally unqualified: If you need to rely on advice check it with a suitable authority - eg a solicitor specialising in landlord/tenant law...

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                Originally posted by theartfullodger View Post
                but don't feel that gives any of them the right to grass me up to all 'n sundry..

                Careful referencing & collection of loadsa background info, with prospective T's agreement
                But the blacklist/grassing up and background checking are all based on the same data, so its the same thing?
                If you've been a naughty boy or girl, it doesn't matter how the next prospective LL finds the data, providing of course that the blacklist is based on fact/evidence and not frivolous or false information.
                (I have not checked out this new blacklist app since I am nowhere near getting an iphone, let alone know how they work)

                FYI - if a tenant is "grassed up" as you express it (silly), its not to all 'n sundry.
                The only people will find out this information are those who need to know, which are those people connected to the next LL and the LL him/herself and of course, any further tenancy applications.

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                  The Landlords Association I belong to looked into the Tenant database they held about four years ago. Ultimately, they ran it past a QC and even then it was touch and go whether this was going to breach data protection. I believe it was stopped more because maintaining it to a legitimate level would have taken up too much time.

                  However, a commercial agency contacted the association looking to partner. This was an agency that ran successfully abroad. It may be that this is the same commercial company.

                  Either way, if the data is current and accurate I think it's a boon to landlords and tenants. If you misbehave, you learn that your actions have consequences (landlord or tenant alike - one presumes there is a bit for either?). As long as you have the right to challenge any inclusion then I see no problem. After all, we credit check on a similar basis.

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                    They will fall foul of data protection regulations in 4, 3,...

                    After all, we credit check on a similar basis.
                    I don't think that there is an app letting anyone knowing your name and address look at your credit rating...

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                      If a tenant is checked, hey have to give their permission - but not with this app.

                      Also, even if it is legit, and if so, it's a welcome addition, 4000 names is but a drop in the ocean.

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                        My boss has an iphone, so I will ask him to download it to see it inaction.
                        It's a great idea in principle.
                        Allow tenants to protect their own deposits. I want free money when they do it wrong

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                          Originally posted by thesaint View Post
                          My boss has an iphone, so I will ask him to download it to see it inaction.
                          It's a great idea in principle.
                          I've just downloaded it myself out of interest. The app is a front end to all the services offered by Legal 4 Landlords (see their advert to the right of this screen), plus this "Tenant Risk Register" which states "Check the Legal 4 Landlords register to see if your tenant has been evicted previously by Legal 4 Landlords. Terms and Conditions apply" I can't find any T&Cs other that=n a disclaimer which says that the database is Legal 4 Landlords' own and contains to external sources.

                          Seems pretty pointless to me - out of the hundreds of thousands (millions?) of tenancies set up each year, what are the odds you're going to come across an applicant who's been evicted by Legal 4 Landlords?

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                            How do you vet prospective tenants exactly?

                            I'm new to this and would like to know - is there a website that collates information and presents it to the landlord for a fee or do you do all of the letters etc yourself? How long does it take - HOW DO YOU DO IT?????????????????????????

                            Many thanks.

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