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    #46
    Last poster seems to have lost the thread...or taken it somewhere.
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      #47
      This is a long speculative thread considering the OP buggered off within a couple of hours of posting. More speculation - perhaps he did what I would have done and simply had a chat with the landlady, and if the issue wasn’t resolved moved out?
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        #48
        Originally posted by Mars Mug View Post
        This is a long speculative thread considering the OP buggered off within a couple of hours of posting. More speculation - perhaps he did what I would have done and simply had a chat with the landlady, and if the issue wasn’t resolved moved out?
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          #49
          Originally posted by mind the gap View Post
          Last poster seems to have lost the thread...or taken it somewhere.
          Well it is rather a long thread - I note the OP is allegedly male
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            #50
            Originally posted by Mogin View Post
            If the OP does not have exclusive use of his room, what does he/she have?
            A licence to occupy the property - a lodger. It is quite possible that the licence could have been drafted to give him whatever rights the L and OP wanted; however it was an oral agreement with no terms. So in answer to your other questions:

            Would the OP have had any idea that the landlady or anyone else would be walking in and out of the room that they are renting, at will, sleeping there, clipping toenails, watching TV, etc?

            I doubt it and I doubt that the landlady would have told the OP that he would be sharing the room with undefined others at any time and without notice.
            OP should have asked and agreed this in the first place. Assumptions are very silly...

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              #51
              I'm a landlady and not mad - and I do tidy my lodgers rooms...
              I clean their bathrooms - ensuite or shared, tidy their clothes - sometimes putting them in drawers, empty the bins, and generally make sure the rooms look nice. I am not interested in their possessions. I am interested in having a clean, tidy house - and I take that as being part of my role of being a landlady - instead of having a cleaner. Mostly cos I also have agents showing prospective long term tenants round. My house is luxury and I do not want it to appear like student's dwelling house when I am trying to get top £ for a rental. Also I am a mum and always clearing up anyway. Maybe some people here are over-reacting.

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                #52
                Originally posted by HP mum View Post
                I'm a landlady and not mad - and I do tidy my lodgers rooms...
                I clean their bathrooms - ensuite or shared, tidy their clothes - sometimes putting them in drawers, empty the bins, and generally make sure the rooms look nice. I am not interested in their possessions. I am interested in having a clean, tidy house - and I take that as being part of my role of being a landlady - instead of having a cleaner. Mostly cos I also have agents showing prospective long term tenants round. My house is luxury and I do not want it to appear like student's dwelling house when I am trying to get top £ for a rental. Also I am a mum and always clearing up anyway. Maybe some people here are over-reacting.
                Or maybe it just depends what people want. Cleaning-up for an occupant might be:
                a. a welcomed relief and saving of time for an untidy but busy person; or
                b. a gross invasion of privacy; or
                c. anywhere between these extremes.
                This range applies equally to lodgers and one's own family!
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                  #53
                  Originally posted by Telometer View Post
                  OP should have asked and agreed this in the first place. Assumptions are very silly...
                  Yes, but I think the OP and many people could reasonably expect their room to be their room and any access to it agreed in advance.

                  The likelihood that tenants, lodgers, occupants, etc would expect the LL to come and go as they please, with friends, etc., and without formally discussing the subject in advance is not very high, in my opinion.

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                    #54
                    Originally posted by HP mum View Post
                    I'm a landlady and not mad - and I do tidy my lodgers rooms...
                    I clean their bathrooms - ensuite or shared, tidy their clothes - sometimes putting them in drawers, empty the bins, and generally make sure the rooms look nice. I am not interested in their possessions. I am interested in having a clean, tidy house - and I take that as being part of my role of being a landlady - instead of having a cleaner. Mostly cos I also have agents showing prospective long term tenants round. My house is luxury and I do not want it to appear like student's dwelling house when I am trying to get top £ for a rental. Also I am a mum and always clearing up anyway. Maybe some people here are over-reacting.
                    Have you agreed with your lodgers to do these things before they take up occupancy?

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                      #55
                      I have stayed in a place like this in the past where the landlady cleaned the room etc; it was advertised as a serviced bed-sit. It would help if the OP could clarify the situation but (s)he seems to have no further interest?
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                        #56
                        replying to the above posters - I only offer short term lodging space and most people that come are wonderful guests that become great friends who return again and again... I do tell people that the room is cleaned/kep tidy - the fact that I mostly choose to do it, rather than a cleaner, is irrelevant. Most people leave their doors open, never locked, as they are so comfortable in my home. I guess that is not most people's experience as there are a lot of weird, untrustworthy tenants/landlords - but it seems to be a fantastic experience here. Which is why I offered my tuppence worth to this issue !!

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                          #57
                          Originally posted by HP mum View Post
                          I only offer short term lodging space and most people that come are wonderful guests that become great friends who return again and again... I do tell people that the room is cleaned/kep tidy - the fact that I mostly choose to do it, rather than a cleaner, is irrelevant
                          You sound very much like my old landlady in Bristol who was very friendly and helpful, I eventually bought as house opposite my old bedsit (by chance) and the landlady then became a good neighbour.

                          I was well aware of the situation before I moved into the bedsit, and it was a reason why I chose it. I can only assume the OP was not aware otherwise why post? In that case I can well understand why some people would be concerned about an unexpected ‘intrusion’.
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