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    Can T find Landlord's address without him knowing?

    I'm applying for Housing Benefit but don't want my landlord knowing. On the form, I have to enter his name and address. Is there way of obtaining these details other than arousing his suspicion by asking him?

    #2
    I should clarify: I rented via an agency but he also works at the agency. So on the contratct, it has the agency's details and I only know the landord by his fiorst name, The form specifically asks for HIS details

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      #3
      well i would certainly want to know if my tenants were applying for housing benefit, but he will find out when the payments swap over and surely if the council delays or suspends or does whatever surely?

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        #4
        Hi johndoe,

        You can put the landlords address down C/O the agency itself. When you submit the claim for benfits the local benefits office will ask for your tenancy agreement which will by law have the landlords full name on the tenancy agreement. They will also ask for proof of your benefits. They dont normally contact the landlord for a new claim.

        Whilst I would advise you to tell your landlord that you are claiming benefits, it is up to you. I think he would feel better knowing that you are being upfront with him.

        Your agreement is between you and the landlord, where the rent comes from is of little interest to him, so long as it is paid. Are you currently in arrears with your rent? If so tell your landlord and he can contact benefits office and help sort the claim out quicker, this is what he does for a living.

        Hope this helps

        Jax

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          #5
          Stavros,
          The payments can go directly to tenants so there would be no change.
          I've also being paying rent here for months so there would be no delay. I can afford it but on a low income so am eligible.

          Thanks Jax,
          I met with a housing officer yesterday and she insists that I neet to put both the landlord'd AND the agency's details on the form. My tenancy agreement only has the agency's details.
          I'm not on benefit but am self-employed on a low income so I just need to show acounts.

          I was hoping there would be a directory or something that will give you a landlord's name, at least, when stating the address.

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            #6
            Write to the agent asking for the landlord's address, as they have to provide it to you within 21 days or the agents are committing a criminal offence.
            The advice I give should not be construed as a definitive answer, and is without prejudice or liability. You are advised to consult a specialist solicitor or other person of equal legal standing.

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              #7
              The landlord will get a letter stating how much housing benefit you are eligible for.

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                #8
                Hi Johndoe,

                The housing benefit office should accept the C/O address for the owner of the property, but there is one other way to possibly get it quickly. You can log onto the land registry website and put your home details in and it should come back with the owners home address instantly!!! If I remember right it costs £3.

                With regards to landlord being notified about the award, I have found that it no longer happens since LHA was introduced. LHA is an agreement between the tenant and the council nothing to do with the landlord. What the council needs to satisfy itself with is that rent is payable on the property and then they start on the award, as in how much is LHA for the house, what does the claimant qualify for, is there any savings then issues the award. The LHA is paid to tenant every fortnight, about a week in arrears. So it doesnt take long to sort out if all paperwork goes in together.

                Johndoe, why are you worrying about the landlord?

                Jax

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                  #9
                  Hi Jax,

                  You're right, the landlord doesn't need to now. It's j ust that the form can't be processed without that information. Thanks for that site. However, it says 'no data available' for my address.

                  Bascially, I don't want him to know as I don't want him to turn around and say that he doesn't want me living here on Housing Benefit. I live in an area where landlords just don't accept it.

                  John

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by johndoe View Post
                    Hi Jax,


                    Bascially, I don't want him to know as I don't want him to turn around and say that he doesn't want me living here on Housing Benefit. I live in an area where landlords just don't accept it.

                    johndoe, if you are do not fall into arrears with the rent or otherwise breach your tenancy agreement, your LL cannot use the fact that you are receiving HB as a reason to ask you to leave.

                    Re his address: this might not apply to you, but if the property is a licensed HMO, his name and address should be on the council register of licensed LLs, available online or to anyone who asks for it, at your local council offices.
                    John

                    Hope that's some use.
                    'Pause you who read this, and think for a moment of the long chain of iron or gold, of thorns or flowers, that would never have bound you, but for the formation fo the first link on one memorable day'. Charles Dickens, Great Expectations

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by johndoe View Post
                      Bascially, I don't want him to know as I don't want him to turn around and say that he doesn't want me living here on Housing Benefit. I live in an area where landlords just don't accept it.
                      I don't think there's any such thing as an "area where landlords dont't accept it". I think you'll find that (subject to possible considerations of mortgages and insurance) a large majority of landlords in any area don't want to take on new DSS tenants for all the reasons which have been discussed to death here and which I'm sure you're aware of. However, it would be a whole different ball-game if an existing tenant like you, who is already known to the landlord and (I hope?!) has been an exemplary tenant, finds themselves moving on to benefit.

                      Provided you can provide assurances to the LL that you will definitely be able to keep up the payments (and keep paying rent in advance as you should, notwithstanding your benefit payments coming in arrears), then I really can't see him objecting. Far worse that he finds out anyway (which is highly likely), and that he then knows that you've deliberately withheld the information.

                      That would be my own take on the situation, anyway, as a non-DSS-accepting landlord.

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                        #12
                        you know his name? you know the area? very easy to find his address. try 192.com
                        Best Regards

                        PI Guy

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by johndoe View Post
                          I met with a housing officer yesterday and she insists that I neet to put both the landlord'd AND the agency's details on the form. My tenancy agreement only has the agency's details.
                          Local councils, as well as the whole civil service are renowned for "gold-plating" legislation.

                          Under the old housing benefit rules all the council needed to establish was that the tenancy was a genuine one and not "contrived" i.e. by letting to a relation (which means that you while you could rent out a property to, say, a brother and charge market rent on a proper AST, once benefit is claimed the authorities expect - as there is a family connection - that you let him live there rent-free). Round our way they normally insist on seeing an original tenancy agreement - whereas a letter from the landlord will suffice. I have many an argument about this and won every one.

                          I don't know the requirements under LHA, but I would hardly think it is different. This is because we often get asked by phone what the landords address is for properties we manage. We say put it in writing and post or fax your request. We then always give our address. If it is queried (only twice so far) we ask them for the relevent statute that requires us to release this information - and that is the last we hear of it.

                          They may insist on all sorts of information. Whether they are entitled and have genuine grounds for "insisting" is more to the point.
                          On some things I am very knowledgeable, on other things I am stupid. Trouble is, sometimes I discover that the former is the latter or vice versa, and I don't know this until later - maybe even much later. Because of the number of posts I have done, I am now a Senior Member. However, read anything I write with the above in mind.

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