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  • lorenzo
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    Originally posted by ah84 View Post
    I maintain my properties extremely well but I do worry about this. The trouble is a clever tenant will cry disrepair. They could never open the windows , have a fish tank etc to get a bit of mould on he ceiling and cry disrepair. And we all know which side a judge is going to go for.
    Of course McBean's band of merry malcontents and holier than thou champagne socialists could completely cock up the writing of it. That is a real possibility.

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  • ah84
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    Originally posted by lorenzo View Post
    Nonsense!

    What a massive over-reaction!

    If LLs honour maintenance obligations they will still be able to use s21 at will. There is nothing offensive in this proposal at all... unless you want to use s21 as a retaliatory measure against a tenant merely forcing LL to honour the contract they themselves have drafted, and/or relevant housing act.

    As an LL who maintains his properties, I have no concern whatsoever.
    I maintain my properties extremely well but I do worry about this. The trouble is a clever tenant will cry disrepair. They could never open the windows , have a fish tank etc to get a bit of mould on he ceiling and cry disrepair. And we all know which side a judge is going to go for.

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  • mind the gap
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    Originally posted by lorenzo View Post
    Nonsense!

    What a massive over-reaction!

    If LLs honour maintenance obligations they will still be able to use s21 at will. There is nothing offensive in this proposal at all... unless you want to use s21 as a retaliatory measure against a tenant merely forcing LL to honour the contract they themselves have drafted, and/or relevant housing act.

    As an LL who maintains his properties, I have no concern whatsoever.
    Hear, hear. Good to see someone talking some sense about this for once.

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  • lorenzo
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    Originally posted by SEB View Post
    I don't see how we can go backwards with such ideas.

    Private property is just that.

    If there is a genuine effort to try and remove or weaken a property owner's right to claim back his/her property, there will be at least 3 effects.

    1. Many single rental property owners will simply sell their property and stuff the cash in the bank.
    2. Landlords with a few or more properties will not let to tenants on AST's or sell as many properties as they have.
    3. The private lettings market will implode.

    How can a landlord, who has worked hard to get to where he is, be justly treated in this offensive manner.
    I know we have imbeciles in government, but this doesn't mean we should tolerate everything that comes out of their mouths.

    If push comes to shove, I am ready.
    I remember the Poll Tax riots...
    Nonsense!

    What a massive over-reaction!

    If LLs honour maintenance obligations they will still be able to use s21 at will. There is nothing offensive in this proposal at all... unless you want to use s21 as a retaliatory measure against a tenant merely forcing LL to honour the contract they themselves have drafted, and/or relevant housing act.

    As an LL who maintains his properties, I have no concern whatsoever.

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  • SEB
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    I don't see how we can go backwards with such ideas.

    Private property is just that.

    If there is a genuine effort to try and remove or weaken a property owner's right to claim back his/her property, there will be at least 3 effects.

    1. Many single rental property owners will simply sell their property and stuff the cash in the bank.
    2. Landlords with a few or more properties will not let to tenants on AST's or sell as many properties as they have.
    3. The private lettings market will implode.

    How can a landlord, who has worked hard to get to where he is, be justly treated in this offensive manner.
    I know we have imbeciles in government, but this doesn't mean we should tolerate everything that comes out of their mouths.

    If push comes to shove, I am ready.
    I remember the Poll Tax riots...

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  • PaulF
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    You're worrying unnecessarily. Wait until the smoke clears before you assume it might become law!

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  • lorenzo
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    LLs should be careful about how they campaign on this. It could be construed thatthey want the right to retain retaliatory evictions.

    The spirit of Rachman lives.

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  • EddieMonster
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    Very true Jeffrey, but CAB website points out that "retaliatory eviction" is illegal in other countries and I just thought maybe some landlords/tenants have experience of that.

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  • jeffrey
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    The question cannot yet be answered because no-one knows if/when/what changes will be.

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  • EddieMonster
    started a topic Watered down s21 - a question!

    Watered down s21 - a question!

    If the changes go ahead to s21 (see below for links) does anyone know how you would prove or disprove "retaliatory eviction"?
    Does anyone have experience of this: good/bad, evictor/evictee?

    As a side note:
    Trying to evict my tenant (hopefully today) using s21, ironically, because she wouldn't allow me access to repair/maintain the property


    Article - http://www.netrent.co.uk/netrent_homev2/blog.asp

    Petition - http://www.netrent.co.uk/netrent_hom...tion.aspx?id=1

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