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    Rat problem!

    I have a suspected rat problem in my property (I am the landlord). The fridge has a small drainage hole in the base and while the tenant was away, the rat chewed the hole to a diameter of about 5cm and got into the fridge. I've bought a new fridge, a rat trap and an untrasonic rodent repeller, all at my expense. The trap hasn't worked and the tenant is now trying the repeller. If I have to go further and call in professional pest controllers, is it reasonable to ask the tenant to pay say half the cost of this? It will cost £200. I wouldn't say that the tenant is particularly at fault here as the flat is kept clean.

    Thanks.

    #2
    Originally posted by UKLandlord1000 View Post
    I have a suspected rat problem in my property (I am the landlord). The fridge has a small drainage hole in the base and while the tenant was away, the rat chewed the hole to a diameter of about 5cm and got into the fridge. I've bought a new fridge, a rat trap and an untrasonic rodent repeller, all at my expense. The trap hasn't worked and the tenant is now trying the repeller. If I have to go further and call in professional pest controllers, is it reasonable to ask the tenant to pay say half the cost of this? It will cost £200. I wouldn't say that the tenant is particularly at fault here as the flat is kept clean.

    Thanks.

    In that case it would seem unreasonable to make your tenant pay for a problem with your property which is not of his making.

    You need to find out how the rat got into the property in the first place - by 'drainage hole' do you mean an exit from the fridge to the outside of your property? Sounds like a bad idea. Most modern fridges which need drainage have a tray integral to the fridge which can be pulled out and emptied/cleaned if need be.

    If you suspect that the rat is not alone (ie has a gang of mates roaming the neighbourhood) you will need to get onto pest control sharpish, or you may end up paying for althernative accommodation for your tenant.

    I'm sure the Rat Liberation Front, will advise otherwise but I'd say be fast and brutal!
    'Pause you who read this, and think for a moment of the long chain of iron or gold, of thorns or flowers, that would never have bound you, but for the formation fo the first link on one memorable day'. Charles Dickens, Great Expectations

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      #3
      Also consult your property's insurer. Even if no claim is to be made (because either it's a low value or the policy does not cover rat infestation), the insurer may well be able to provide guidance re how to remove the problem (short-term) or avoid it recurring (long-term).
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        #4
        Rats can be hard to trap.

        Sonic devices are not that great.

        Pest controllers will only use bait. The problem is if the rat dies where you cant get to it (in a wall cavity) and stinks out the tenant.

        You need to find how it gets in and know what activity patterns it has (when it is in and when it is out) Rats need water everyday, so, like Elvis, they will have to leave the building. Try to plug the gap temporarily when you think the rat is outside (try early afternoon) so it cannot get in later. If you hear more activity later, the rat is either trapped inside or has access from another way.
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          #5
          Originally posted by Bel View Post
          You need to find how it gets in and know what activity patterns it has (when it is in and when it is out) Rats need water everyday, so, like Elvis, they will have to leave the building. Try to plug the gap temporarily when you think the rat is outside (try early afternoon) so it cannot get in later. If you hear more activity later, the rat is either trapped inside or has access from another way.
          Sounds like a pretty canny rat, though. (Hope it isn't reading this thread).
          'Pause you who read this, and think for a moment of the long chain of iron or gold, of thorns or flowers, that would never have bound you, but for the formation fo the first link on one memorable day'. Charles Dickens, Great Expectations

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            #6
            I undertook a specialist course in rat behaviour with the then named MAFF (don't ask if you're not old enough to know!) and it was quite fascinating. Rats are not only canny (i.e. of good intelligence) they have a good memory too! What's the most common cause of death in rats? The surprise answer is other rats!
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              #7
              Originally posted by Paul_f View Post
              I undertook a specialist course in rat behaviour with the then named MAFF (don't ask if you're not old enough to know!) and it was quite fascinating. Rats are not only canny (i.e. of good intelligence) they have a good memory too! What's the most common cause of death in rats? The surprise answer is other rats!
              Cool! What did the course involve - did you come face to face with real live rats, dead ones, what? How do rats kill each other? Sounds a whole load more interesting than some of the courses I go on.

              Good memory, eh. I can just imagine that rat in OP thinking 'I'll have another shinny up that fridge drain thing. He had a nice bit of camembert I could finish off on the second shelf...'
              'Pause you who read this, and think for a moment of the long chain of iron or gold, of thorns or flowers, that would never have bound you, but for the formation fo the first link on one memorable day'. Charles Dickens, Great Expectations

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                #8
                Is no rat. Is hamster!
                [You knew that I'd say this eventually, be honest.]
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by jeffrey View Post
                  Is no rat. Is hamster!
                  [You knew that I'd say this eventually, be honest.]
                  Yes, but we knew it would make you happy, Manuel.
                  'Pause you who read this, and think for a moment of the long chain of iron or gold, of thorns or flowers, that would never have bound you, but for the formation fo the first link on one memorable day'. Charles Dickens, Great Expectations

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                    #10
                    Rat Problem

                    Have just had to pay to get rid of wasps nest for tenant. I used the Council's own service as it was cheaper.

                    I noticed on our council's web site that treatment for rat problems was free. I may be so in your authority. Look on their web site, probably under Environmental -Pest Control.

                    Good luck!

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                      #11
                      Well .......As a bit of a rat mi self ...guys.....!1!!!!!

                      RAt problem is LL prob for access (ie blocking up holes in building....) T problem to rid ...
                      Most local councils have pest control which is anything from free to £30 to "poison ",.........but this is the VERY VERY smelly way.....have you ever smelt dead rat ......trust me .........its not nice ........use a couple of rat traps with peanut butter "on their run" ...........i reckon you will have a result within a few hours ........

                      search forum for "rats " as has been discussed b4

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Rodent1 View Post
                        but this is the VERY VERY smelly way.....have you ever smelt dead rat ......trust me .........its not nice
                        I have quite regularly at a military site I work at in Portsmouth, dead rats stink for a couple of weeks, very difficult to mask and the kind of smell you can taste. The smell is typically accompanied by masses of flies.
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