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    Business rates for water?

    Guys just a quick question. I had an interesting defence filed against a claim I have with my previous landlord yesterday. Among the paperwork he sent was a water bill in which it says that the bill is for business rate water for "offices" the building is in fact 12 apartments is it legal for him to

    (a) have one bill for all apartments?
    (b) Be using business rates?
    (c) to have it reg'd as offices?

    It has taken him 9 months to get a water bill to show me what he is deducting from my deposit the guy is crazy but still I would like to know as it could be an squeeky pant moment for him in court while he trys to explain that one.

    Hope you can help and thanks in advance,

    Tom

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    Originally posted by Loki117 View Post
    is it legal for him to
    (a) have one water bill for all apartments? ( probably not )
    (b) Be using business rates? ( Thats between him and the water board, not you )
    (c) to have it reg'd as offices?
    Tom
    I know nothing about water boards / offices.

    But it's probably cheaper to have office rates as you dont have 12 baths and 12 washing machines in 12 Offices, so he could then charge you what he likes for water charges. But it's his problem if he is deceiving the water board, as he pays the bill.

    As you are leaving the country in 90 days, don't complicate matters, and if the water rates are no more than about £ 37 gbp per month, just pay it, even though there should have been a separate main to your flat and you had to set up an account with the local water board which you would have had to pay water rates to them anyway.

    I cant help thinking you could be making mountains out of mole hills on some of your posts, with comments such as :- "how is this true that the landlord doesn't have to provide a working telephone line?"

    Basicly, a dweling is supplied. If you want water, you go to the river with a bucket, or you pay water rates. If you want communications, you shout loud, or write a letter, or you pay for a telephone line. If you have paid a deposit, and have not caused damage, you should get it back ( irrespective if it's in a TDS or not )

    You have to pay water rates, and if no more than above, dont hinder your current claims by adding more complicated unnecessary items about water rates to delay a court hearing.

    So with the advice from these forums, when you come back, you will now read the lease and small print.
    Last edited by ram; 07-08-2008, 15:34 PM. Reason: spelling

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      Originally posted by ram View Post
      I know nothing about water boards / offices.

      But it's probably cheaper to have office rates as you dont have 12 baths and 12 washing machines in 12 Offices, so he could then charge you what he likes for water charges. But it's his problem if he is deceiving the water board, as he pays the bill.

      As you are leaving the country in 90 days, don't complicate matters, and if the water rates are no more than about £ 37 gbp per month, just pay it, even though there should have been a separate main to your flat and you had to set up an account with the local water board which you would have had to pay water rates to them anyway.

      I cant help thinking you could be making mountains out of mole hills on some of your posts, with comments such as :- "how is this true that the landlord doesn't have to provide a working telephone line?"

      Basicly, a dweling is supplied. If you want water, you go to the river with a bucket, or you pay water rates. If you want communications, you shout loud, or write a letter, or you pay for a telephone line. If you have paid a deposit, and have not caused damage, you should get it back ( irrespective if it's in a TDS or not )

      You have to pay water rates, and if no more than above, dont hinder your current claims by adding more complicated unnecessary items about water rates to delay a court hearing.

      So with the advice from these forums, when you come back, you will now read the lease and small print.

      Ram cutting through what you have said above as I am sure you are aware small claims can often go on the gut feel that the judge has for a defendent and claimant as much as it can for where the law is.

      My reason for asking the question is because showing that a landlord is dodging payments where possible and down right avoiding others goes some way to showing the judge the landlords underlying character of a person who will chance his luck at avoiding cost where possible (TDS, Water rates, Refunding my deposit, chargin me a telephone bill because there was a line in the house which he had connected and counted as a utility even though there was never a call made on it) so as you can see all my questions are pertinant to my case.

      My comment of "how is this true that the landlord doesn't have to provide a working telephone line?" may well have not been thought out well I agree however I was asking a question because I had been told by a lawyer that a telephone could be counted as a utility depending on your AST and there for liable for deductions on the deposit.

      I should also say that I am not using all of this in a court case what I am looking for is the instances which the landlord may lodge a defence and having a pre emtive answer for that defence. I dont intend getting drawn off track on the TDS issue but he will try and show reason why he didnt give me the deposit back.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Loki117 View Post
        My reason for asking the question is
        No problem.

        See reply at http://www.landlordzone.co.uk/forums...6543#post86543

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