I'm a landlord who also rents- EVERYTHING is broken and filthy- what should I pay?

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  • landlord-man
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    No the plot doesnt thicken - no matter how often you add new ingrediants and stir.

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  • SplashLandlord
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    Original Poster here. I am enjoying the conspiracy theorists and apologies to those who find this a bore. Major apologies to AlexR for being accused of being me in disguise- what an insult, thankfully retracted now by royw- it's not halloween just yet royw.

    Despite my lengthy explanations, for which I am known. It seems a few things have got lost- namely- renting my own home out, is not seen as a money-making venture for me so I just want it to be stress free and at the end to come out with my flat having been looked after to not have lost money and it not to have caused me stress, I would also like someone to be able to live in my flat knowing that I am a fair landlord who will do right by them, This gives me peace of mind and makes me feel happy as a person. The rent I charge for my flat, perhaps because it is in London, I don't know, far exceeds the mortgage and as I just need to break even in my mind, if I need to pay to not have my tenant calling me all the time about some ants and she be happy, then so be it. She'll be there a year, it's just 2 days, she is neurotic but will keep the place neurotically clean- I would rather that than she be unhappy or have someone who leave it filthy and I feel good for being kind to her. She appreciates it (for now at least, maybe she will be a bad tenant later, who knows, but for now all good) and happy days. This is simply how I live my life.

    In terms of doing the repairs myself, again, you confuse my point. I am not asking what to do. I know I could easily fix the problems myself, that isn't the issue. I didn't fix them because I should not have to and because in fixing something which should not be broken you are complicit in allowing someone to go on treating people this way. That is not how I roll. I believe people need to take responsibility and those who can stand up to people who treat people badly, like I am able to, should.

    What was puzzling me, as you know, was why would the landlord have left the place empty for so long and thus let it get into a state of such disrepair and lose so much rental income and now suddenly be arguing over a few hundred quid. I believe I have my answer. PLANNING PERMISSION. During the empty period he had applied for planning permission and so presumably was expecting a visit and as he doesn't want the council to know he rents (wild guess but not a massive leap) I think he wanted to make sure no council officials coming to do the surveying for the planning permission got wind of him renting in case they let the relevant department know. Permission was granted 2 months before I moved in. The plot thickens.

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  • royw
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    Originally posted by AlexR View Post

    Join date Oct 2016 and no, I do not know OP but I am a student landlord and have seen how Estate Agents operate.
    Apologies, I confused it with the latest activity date.

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  • landlord-man
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    Originally posted by royw View Post
    And AlexR just joined today. Either a mate or OP by a different name?
    He/She joined a few years ago and has quite a few posts - don't let's take the conspiracy theories too far, this isn't Covid (well not until the OP claims it in her next post lol)

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  • AlexR
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    Originally posted by royw View Post
    And AlexR just joined today. Either a mate or OP by a different name?
    Join date Oct 2016 and no, I do not know OP but I am a student landlord and have seen how Estate Agents operate.

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  • royw
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    And AlexR just joined today. Either a mate or OP by a different name?

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  • landlord-man
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    Originally posted by AlexR View Post

    - the property market in most areas is overheated and this story illustrates that normal rules don't apply
    Silly me - I forgot the normal rules like having common sense and opening your eyes to what is around you.

    The OP is (apparently) both a successful business woman and a landlord - yet enters into a Tenancy with her eyes firmly shut.

    I don't believe it at all.





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  • AlexR
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    Originally posted by landlord-man View Post
    If its real, then go after this shoddy LL for every penny you can, not just a few ££ discount one month.
    The property was a student house and the landlord has been getting away with providing sub standard property which is not clean. It seems that he has missed the student market and has offered this property in its 'student' condition to the wider market and because demand outstrips supply the OP is forced to consider his property as the only option. It's no wonder it reads like a spoof - the property market in most areas is overheated and this story illustrates that normal rules don't apply

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  • landlord-man
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  • boletus
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    Originally posted by Hudson01 View Post

    I, by my own admission am totally inept at DIY, but even i would do the above
    Or if totally incompetent, then just pay a local handyman £50 to do it.

    (Cue further information revealing the entire bathroom floor has collapsed justifying huge compensation and entitlement to hotels.)

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  • Jon66
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    Putting a tenant in a hotel for 2 days due to ants is ludicrous therefore I suggest your judgment is skewed and your legal knowledge non existent. You should not be a landlord, it is not the business for you.

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  • Hudson01
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    Originally posted by AndrewDod View Post
    How about
    a) Buy a £5 tube of silicon
    b) Squirt it on the hole
    c) Send landlord an invoice for £5
    I, by my own admission am totally inept at DIY, but even i would do the above, the silicone seal around a plug or bath/shower can degrade over time, it really is not a big job to do it yourself, it does not render the whole bathroom unusable. I am coming round to the view of '' Landlord-Man''.

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  • landlord-man
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    This is getting boring now and the more the OP posts the less and less I believe it.

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  • AndrewDod
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    Bear in mind that it might well take 2 months to find a tradesman to do a minor job. We live in strange times.

    How about
    a) Buy a £5 tube of silicon
    b) Squirt it on the hole
    c) Send landlord an invoice for £5
    d) Find somewhere better to stay

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  • SplashLandlord
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    Thanks again for the replies. Helpful to know.

    The % of the rooms thing surprises me- as one can't function in a house where you can't bathe or shower- so if the tiles around the bath leak and thus you cannot shower (shower is over the bath) and the bath plughole leaks so you cannot use the bath then essentially the LL is renting a property with a bathroom with no shower or bath in my view.

    I am a landlord and if I rented a property with no shower or bath for any length of time- I would say more than a couple of days then I would halve the rent- because I just don't see any excuse not to fix the problem if the tenant is making the place available to have the problem fixed. However, I am new to being a landlord and I am also a nice person and am not being a landlord as a business as such, just to cover my mortgage and anything extra is a bonus, so I just want a simple life, I already have my actual business as my main income. What my main issue with the whole situation is injustice and someone trying to take advantage of, me or anyone else which I simply cannot stand. This is something which I would am willing to put time and effort and stress into not letting happen to show that person they cannot and should not do that to another person, and it is that which makes me furious, far more than the financial implication to me. I would just prefer people to be decent, honest and have integrity and also if possible be kind, although I appreciate that is not in everyone's gift, do not take advantage of others.

    The reason I thought he would give me a discount is despite he being incompetent he does at least seem genuine and I think a good person so I expected him to honor this, and this he would, but now the other people involved in the business have got wind of it, he has been forced to retract what he offered and so I want to know what to do and what is reasonable.

    I know that I am overgenerous because with my tenant she completely freaked out due to having ants in the property, I already knew she was very sensitive as she had sent me a voicenote when she had initially moved in telling me and I quote 'I got into the flat and I was really scared because it was so dark, but then I found the light switch and then it was OK', not even joking, that was the message. When I sent the pest control guy he called to say it was the least bad case he had ever seen and he had put some poison down which usually did the job on most serious jobs but it would take 2 days to work. She called him back 3x in 2 days. I eventually moved her to a hotel for 2 days because she was freaking out so much, arranged for him to accompany her entering the flat, this is after he called me as he went in alone for the 4th time and on the phone said 'OK, I am going in....there is nothing here.'. I just want an easy life, for me to be happy, my tenant not to freak out, and my landlord not to go around taking advantage of people like he is me and me to not be raging about being taking advantage of or having to clean a filthy oven for hours.

    I decided to do go down the private rented route when i decided to rent my place and glad i did as it is actually all very straightforward and couldn't face the ridiculous charges the letting agents charge for seemingly doing nothing, very glad I did as now I know what my LL should have done, but I guess this is the bit I can't work out. I know I am not being unreasonable about what has happened and what the standard should be, but it is the financial bit that baffles me.

    Using the % theory £50 for a month of not being able to have a shower or bath in your own home- that seems like madness to me?

    Using that theory, if I could not cook what would I get deducted? If i could not sleep there, what then? How would you work out if you everything but had no heating?

    What if I could not cook, sleep, wash or hangout in a living area at all?

    Genuine questions!

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