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    Tenant left satellite dish.

    Hi, looking for some advice if possible. We have just moved back into a property we had been renting . There is quite a bit of minor damage (beyond normal W&T) burn marks to carpets, curtains missing, poles pulled of wall etc, additionally they have left behind a large satellite dish and cabling (but no box)so we can't access free view of any TV. No consent was sought or given for dish. Where do we stand with deducting from the deposit for the expense and damage (holes in wall & fence) caused by this? I know the law allows tenants to have a satellite dish but I understood they had to ask/inform the LL prior to installation? Any advice much appreciated.

    #2
    You absolutely can charge for the cost of making good any damage including removal of the satellite dish. You can charge for the shortening of the life of the carpet because of burns & holes and the full cost of items that are missing such as curtains.

    My advice, make a comprehensive list of each item & the cost of repair / replacement - it is much harder to argue against an itemised list. Make sure you provide accurate descriptions & pictures.

    Good luck

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      #3
      Originally posted by IzzyB View Post
      H...............I know the law allows tenants to have a satellite dish but I understood they had to ask/inform the LL prior to installation? Any advice much appreciated.
      Really? What law & section would that be, please?

      Consider the option of keeping dish (unless v unsightly probably makes the place more attractive to many..) and buy a cheap satellite receiver e.g
      https://www.amazon.co.uk/Freeview-Sa.../dp/B08L9HX7RJ
      - then you can get , no contract required, all the freeview channels & many more using "Freesat".

      Or buy a more expensive one & record programmes also ..

      https://www.freesat.co.uk/get-freesa...able-4k-tv-box
      I am legally unqualified: If you need to rely on advice check it with a suitable authority - eg a solicitor specialising in landlord/tenant law...

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        #4
        Originally posted by theartfullodger View Post

        Really? What law & section would that be, please?
        It's usually in the contract. I definitely had that requirement when I was renting myself many years ago.

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          #5
          Originally posted by kirts View Post

          It's usually in the contract. I definitely had that requirement when I was renting myself many years ago.
          would probably come under an unfair and unenforceable term

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            #6
            Hi thank you everyone for your advice, I've made a list of everything for the agent and will have to go from there.
            Artful thank you for the link, its the FFC rules on the over air transmission devices,(OTARD) its allows tenants to have a dish by law, unfortunately its a huge unsightly dish in a small garden so will have go, and I think leaving us with no TV reception is a bit underhanded, they also didn't replumb the washing machine, took the light bulbs, sink plugs, flush button from toilets, temp gauge from shower so it does feel a bit deliberate! They also took 8 months to leave after section 21 so its been quite an episode!

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              #7
              Originally posted by IzzyB View Post
              its the FFC rules on the over air transmission devices,(OTARD)
              Thankfully that's not UK law.

              I think leaving us with no TV reception is a bit underhanded
              Buy a TV with freesat (or a freesat device) and you should have a reasonable TV reception.

              When I post, I am expressing an opinion - feel free to disagree, I have been wrong before.
              Please don't act on my suggestions without checking with a grown-up (ideally some kind of expert).

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                #8
                Do you actually have enough Deposit to claim all this against?

                The Law may give them a right to install a dish (I don't know and not relevant) - but your Agreement will require that they return the property to the condition it was at the start of the Tenancy (allowing fair wear/tear)

                Claim as much as you can, just in case some aren't allowed/reduced etc

                And be sure to be honest and factual in any references you hand out.
                My views are my own - you may not agree with them. I tend say things as I see them and I don't do "political correctness". Just because we may not agree you can still buy me a pint lol

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                  #9
                  Claiming for a satelite dish is a pain.

                  It's normally not the property of the tenant, so the "damage" is some holes in the brickwork and, usually, one hole through a wall.
                  And, in theory, the time to remove the dish, which, because it's useful, most people don't do - and, usually, the next tenant just uses the dish, so leaving it saves it happening again.
                  When I post, I am expressing an opinion - feel free to disagree, I have been wrong before.
                  Please don't act on my suggestions without checking with a grown-up (ideally some kind of expert).

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by jpkeates View Post
                    Claiming for a satelite dish is a pain.

                    It's normally not the property of the tenant, so the "damage" is some holes in the brickwork and, usually, one hole through a wall.
                    And, in theory, the time to remove the dish, which, because it's useful, most people don't do - and, usually, the next tenant just uses the dish, so leaving it saves it happening again.
                    But then continues to be the LLs problem to maintain.

                    Dishes are less useful these days as most have internet access.

                    I would get rid (or at least give Tenant chance to collect)
                    My views are my own - you may not agree with them. I tend say things as I see them and I don't do "political correctness". Just because we may not agree you can still buy me a pint lol

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                      #11
                      If it's a very large dish it's probably pointing at satellites serving a country other than UK. Were tenants non-uk please?

                      ​​​​​​Nowt wrong with non-uk tenants. Some my best tenants are/were non-uk.
                      I am legally unqualified: If you need to rely on advice check it with a suitable authority - eg a solicitor specialising in landlord/tenant law...

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by theartfullodger View Post
                        If it's a very large dish it's probably pointing at satellites serving a country other than UK.
                        Apparently, there is software on the internet which allows users to view just about any TV in the World - apparently.

                        My views are my own - you may not agree with them. I tend say things as I see them and I don't do "political correctness". Just because we may not agree you can still buy me a pint lol

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                          #13
                          Yes, but not through a non-steerable dish....
                          I am legally unqualified: If you need to rely on advice check it with a suitable authority - eg a solicitor specialising in landlord/tenant law...

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                            #14
                            That's the point - you don't need a dish at all - steerable or otherwise. [sorry getting off topic]
                            My views are my own - you may not agree with them. I tend say things as I see them and I don't do "political correctness". Just because we may not agree you can still buy me a pint lol

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                              #15
                              Thanks again for feedback. 'Theartful' our tenants were Polish so I believe the very large steerable dish was for receiving TV from abroad. We never had any problems throughout their 3 year tenancy, they were great tenants, up until we sadly had to give notice to move into the house ourselves, so this has all come as shock. I also feel the agent is at fault for not telling us about dish when they carried our inspections. The points raised by Jpkeats and LLman are why I sought advice as the dish is technically their property (with all that entails) & the bill for making good full reversal of installation (masonry etc) might be seen as unfair/unenforceable, just wondered if anyone else has been able to successfully claim for this? Been a LL 13 years and never had this before.
                              Either way dish has to go its an enormous eyesore!
                              Thanks all.

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