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    Tenant recording conversation

    Hi Everyone
    we have an HMO.
    One room is empty so the cleaners went in.
    The T in the room next door came out to complain about the noise of the cleaners.
    THE T THEN RECORDED THE CONVERSATION
    where we said this was just the noise of people going about their business.
    The T then said "so you REFUSE to reduce the noise".
    1 - What is the Law about being recorded without your consent.
    2 - what are the rights of LL to clean an empty room.
    Thanks

    #2
    clean the room, tell the cleaners not to speak - oh and get rid of this strange tenant as soon as possible
    My views are my own - you may not agree with them. I tend say things as I see them and I don't do "political correctness". Just because we may not agree you can still buy me a pint lol

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      #3
      Tenant is entitled to "quiet enjoyment". If cleaning was too noisy, tenant has a point.
      I am legally unqualified: If you need to rely on advice check it with a suitable authority - eg a solicitor specialising in landlord/tenant law...

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        #4
        The law allows conversations to be recorded, including covertly, but a judge may not allow the recording to be used in any court case if the other party didn't know it was being recorded, or for any other reason.

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          #5
          Originally posted by theartfullodger View Post
          Tenant is entitled to "quiet enjoyment". If cleaning was too noisy, tenant has a point.
          C'mon, that's not what "quiet enjoyment" means, and you know that!

          When I post, I am expressing an opinion - feel free to disagree, I have been wrong before.
          Please don't act on my suggestions without checking with a grown-up (ideally some kind of expert).

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            #6
            Just to clarify - we did not know it was being recorded, but we have our suspicion as T held phone in hand and pointed it at us. Only realised T may heve been recording after we finished speaking.

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              #7
              Just to clarify - it was a one off - end of Tenancy Clean of that one room.

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                #8
                It's legal to record conversations (in most cases) as a private individual.

                There's nothing wrong with making a normal amount of noise in a room next to someone else.
                What's the tenant going to do, call the noise police?
                When I post, I am expressing an opinion - feel free to disagree, I have been wrong before.
                Please don't act on my suggestions without checking with a grown-up (ideally some kind of expert).

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                  #9
                  Thank you for the clear answer regarding recording.
                  Just to be sure that in an HMO the LL has the right to enter all the common parts.

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                    #10
                    Tenant has the right to record as well since they live there. Also anyone can record anything on the street. Only limitation is sensitive areas.

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                      #11
                      As said above i would be looking to get rid, they sound very odd indeed. How a room can be cleaned '' quietly '' when you will no doubt need to vacuum i do not know ! Maybe this individual would feel the quiet isolation of a padded room more to their taste.

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                        #12
                        You have the right to record a conversation to which you are a party without informing the other party.

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                          #13
                          tenant can complain if he wants to if the cleaners were being noisy and ramming the vacuum cleaner into their wall repeatedly or whatever.

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                            #14
                            You could always buy a noise meter, around £20 and when the cleaners go in again take Meter Readings so that if the tenant complains again you can say that meter readings wer taken an were found to be within acceptable limits,

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                              #15
                              Hi Piffy THIS IS EXACT THE POINT - WHAT ARE ACCEPTABLE NOISE LIMITS IN A SHARED HOUSE ?
                              - What is the Decibel level,
                              - the duration
                              - the frequency
                              - the time of day
                              - and of course the T was pre-informed that the cleaners were going in.

                              The T said the cleaners music from their mobile phone was "disturbing her", she works from home in her bedroom.

                              The cleaners surely have the right to go about their daily business and be free from harassment.

                              INDEED JpKeates - who are the noise police? What can the complaining T actually do?

                              WHAT SHOULD I DO WHEN THE T COMPLAINS TO ME ABOUT IT.

                              Thanks

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