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  • DPT57
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    I dont know why you thought Artfuls comments weren't helpful. Landlord forums are full of posts about rent not being paid after the tenants death because its not clear who has the responsibility to surrender the tenancy or they are too pre-occupied to get around to it, or because a Son or grandson decides to move in and persuades them not to act. It's a serious consideration!

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  • Piffy
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    Originally posted by rewdan View Post
    Hi, does anyone see a downside to granting a 1 year ast to a single man in his late 90s. I'm aware if he dies the estate pays the rent but anything else to be aware of?
    Ask for a Guarantor, son daughter ?

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  • theartfullodger
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    Originally posted by rewdan View Post
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    You are on a landlord forum stating that you would not pay the landlord if it was you, What kind of tenant would you make?
    Not quite would not pay, I said I'd try not to pay.... What kind of tenant? I'm a lodger, not an tenant, as my ID may well suggest: (my rented properties in my sole name, we live in a house owned solely by the wife).

    When I started as a landlord, 2000 (after brief foray in the early '80s..). Thought I knew what I was doing: Expensive, painful, complicated, legally tricky mistakes: Oh the stupidity! Oh my Hubris! Resolved to learn, started training, still learning, still making mistakes.

    Welcome to LLZ

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  • jpkeates
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    Originally posted by rewdan View Post
    I apologize to the artfullodger, the sober comment wasn't directed directly at him and I hope he didn't take it that way.
    Welcome to the forum, hope you find it useful!

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  • rewdan
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    Originally posted by Moderator2 View Post

    There's a clear implication that the person you replied to was not sober.

    Please read the forum rules, and also understand that on a public forum you will receive comment that you might not agree with or might think irrelevant. You have the option to report posts which you believe breach the forum rules, but to respond in the antagonistic way you have done, and to tell people not to continue to reply, is not acceptable.
    I apologize to the artfullodger, the sober comment wasn't directed directly at him and I hope he didn't take it that way.

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  • Moderator2
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    Originally posted by rewdan View Post
    I didn't accuse anyone of being drunk, I invited comments from sober people. I honestly can't see anything wrong with that.
    There's a clear implication that the person you replied to was not sober.

    Please read the forum rules, and also understand that on a public forum you will receive comment that you might not agree with or might think irrelevant. You have the option to report posts which you believe breach the forum rules, but to respond in the antagonistic way you have done, and to tell people not to continue to reply, is not acceptable.

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  • rewdan
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    Thank you for you reply, the first 4 paragraphs are exactly the type of information I was looking for in the first place coupled with the other posts of several people. Particularly on the downside of an old tenant.

    I thank you for that, it's all I ever wanted or asked for in my post.

    Maybe I should have been clearer at the beginning that I am aware of the legal position, I was more interested in the perspective of landlords with experience of old tenants.

    As to the other paragraphs, I didn't accuse anyone of being drunk, I invited comments from sober people. I honestly can't see anything wrong with that. But an executor of a will that would try it on, as your friend would do....my mums done many and believe me she would make sure the bills were paid

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  • jpkeates
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    I am aware that the tenancy doesn't end with the death of a tenant (or indeed a landlord).
    But thank you for the link.

    Notwithstanding that, a very common outcome of the death of a tenant is that the rent ceases to be paid.
    That may be because the tenant's estate aren't aware of the situation, it may be that the deceased's bank account is simply frozen, or it may be that the estate simply stops paying.
    If there's no will, for a period there's no one to actually make the payment.

    And, as I said, as a landlord you are then faced with both interacting with and potentially suing grieving individuals.
    And you may have no idea who or where they are.

    It's a frustratingly common problem.

    You asked for things you should be aware of.
    Someone responded, with something you were not aware of (and still seem to be refusing to accept).
    And your response was to accuse the person of being drunk.
    And you don't seem to see anything wrong with that, which is odd.

    I have "things" stronger than idiot, but it's the appropriate description.



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  • rewdan
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    https://landlordlawblog.co.uk/2014/0...se%20(if%20any).

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  • rewdan
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    I am a landlord as I am guessing others on this forum are, you openly stated that as executor of an estate you would try not to pay such an outstanding debt of rent. Are you trying to make friends with other landlords by openly admitting you would not honour the debt to the tenant as is your responsibility as executor of the estate.
    You are on a landlord forum stating that you would not pay the landlord if it was you, What kind of tenant would you make?

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  • theartfullodger
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    Completely agree with jpk.

    Rewdan, thank for your kind words regarding myself.

    Do you have any elderly relatives please?

    Best wishes to all decent members.

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  • jpkeates
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    rewdan
    BTW if you want to stop seeing what I post, there's an ignore list in the account section of your user settings.
    I'm sure you won't be the only user with my name in there.

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  • jpkeates
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    Originally posted by rewdan View Post
    please, if you have nothing constructive to say, then don't say anything. Rather like the first reply to my question, totally unhelpful and even suggesting he would break the law in an attempt to not pay outstanding monies owed. And I'm the idiot! Stop wasting every ones time.
    Sorry, I must have missed the memo announcing your takeover of the forum and the new rules we have to operate under.

    The response you objected to was a sensible response to your request for input.

    If you really think that someone not paying rent is "break[ing] the law", you need a lot more help than you think.

    Experience is that the most likely immediate outcome of a tenant dying is the rent stops being paid.
    Many people are uncomfortable with suing grieving people for rent arrears, so the lost rent is a business risk,

    So that's definitely something you should probably "be aware of".

    To denigrate the response as "unhelpful" and to accuse the person responding of not being "sober" is offensive.
    While you can be excused the former as ignorance, I don't know how you think the latter could possibly be OK.

    You were wrong about the quality of the response, you insulted someone and managed to hack me off enough to respond as I did (which is extraordinarily difficult to do).
    And then you doubled down and went again.

    So, yes, I think you're an idiot.
    And apologies for "wasting everyone's time" once more.

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  • rewdan
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    Originally posted by landlord-man View Post
    ^^^^ 100% agree with JPK ^^^^
    and I'd appreciate it if you kept quiet too. I am only interested in constructive comments to my post.

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  • rewdan
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    Originally posted by jpkeates View Post
    I, like the forum member you decided to insult, am sober.

    My comment is that you are a rude idiot who doesn't deserve to be helped.
    Good luck.
    please, if you have nothing constructive to say, then don't say anything. Rather like the first reply to my question, totally unhelpful and even suggesting he would break the law in an attempt to not pay outstanding monies owed. And I'm the idiot! Stop wasting every ones time.

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