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    Anyone see a problem with this

    Hi everyone I had a real difficult tenant and they have left and owe me thousands. Which doubt I will see.

    they have left a TV worth about £15 and and normally I would never do this but seeing it as I'm not going to get any money out them

    They want to collect it , I'm thinking to sell it (tiniest of victories )

    Anyone see a problem with this ?

    P.s just to clarify normally I would never be this vindictive and I don't even care about the little 15 , but this guy made my life hell . So keen to add some pain to his

    #2
    What does tenancy agreement say about goods left? Can't read it from here

    Agree they can pick it up. At agreed date/time, OUTSIDE the property. Smile, be polite, wave him cheerily off

    It's not worth risking accusations of theft (which your plan would be, criminal). Two wrongs don't make a right.

    Then sue him for what he owes. For as long as it takes, regardless of cost, to ensure he gets CCJs.
    I am legally unqualified: If you need to rely on advice check it with a suitable authority - eg a solicitor specialising in landlord/tenant law...

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      #3
      I have to let him inside as he has another item that needs to be dismantled by work men

      Yes I agree its quite an aggressive move by me. Just keen for him to suffer the way he made me

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        #4
        If I were his landlord I'd ask him to collect it from outside the house and be very tempted to remove the fuse from the plug beforehand.

        Do not let him inside. He will have to get removal men (or women) to dismantle the object and remove it from the property.

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          #5
          Did you do the eviction through the normal process or did he just leave upon giving notice.
          How long has he been gone, there is a time period that belongings have to be collected by.
          At no point would I be letting a tenant back into the property unless it was part of the eviction process.
          The trouble is, tenants have so many rights these days it's almost impossible to move without them accusing the LL of doing something wrong

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            #6
            Don't let him back in. If necessary pay someone to dismantle and move it out.

            Never let someone owing back in. Certainly not without several large people with you.
            I am legally unqualified: If you need to rely on advice check it with a suitable authority - eg a solicitor specialising in landlord/tenant law...

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              #7
              Originally posted by Movieman View Post
              They want to collect it , I'm thinking to sell it (tiniest of victories )

              Anyone see a problem with this ?
              Yes, it would be theft by conversion.

              Any proceeds from the sale belong to the tenant - you can't simply offset money owed like that.
              When I post, I am expressing an opinion - feel free to disagree, I have been wrong before.
              Please don't act on my suggestions without checking with a grown-up (ideally some kind of expert).

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                #8
                theartfullodger,

                Haha good advice, believe me I am 6ft by 6ft . I have plenty of fire in me to throw him out physically . Would not be a problem at all . In fact I would enjoy every moment of it

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                  #9
                  weirdfish,

                  He left, thankfully . Otherwise it just would've added more pain about going to court etc

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                    #10
                    Berlingogirl,

                    Yeah he has to hire some people and god knows why he want this object in dirty and tatty . Bizarre some people. Notmally in a fair man . I'm not like this but this guy took the pics too many times and for too long. Now the power is in my hands , too tempting to flex it

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by jpkeates View Post
                      Yes, it would be theft by conversion.

                      Any proceeds from the sale belong to the tenant - you can't simply offset money owed like that.
                      Good point but what can he do. Not like he can take me to court or sue me

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                        #12
                        Well he could, but you would counterclaim for the money he owes.

                        Or he could report the theft to the police.
                        When I post, I am expressing an opinion - feel free to disagree, I have been wrong before.
                        Please don't act on my suggestions without checking with a grown-up (ideally some kind of expert).

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                          #13
                          It's only worth £15 and not worth getting het up over. I'm sure many landlords here feel your annoyance and have been in the same situation. I know I have

                          He owes rent so you have to keep his stuff for a month. So, give him a month from the day he moved out, to arrange a date for the collection of the tv which you will leave outside for him (and you will wait in the house to make sure nobody steals it), and to arrange for a removals gang to dismantle the unit and take it away (and be there to let the gang in but not the tenant). Say that after that you will dispose of the items.

                          I had a tenant leave a lovely table and never collected it, and although I put it up for sale nobody wanted it (it was filthy) so, after a good deal of cleaning, it's now my son's work table/desk when he comes home from uni.

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                            #14
                            I would not be letting anyone in, give the tenant a date/time, ( to suit you, not him ), put the tv outside and whatever else is in the property, let him know in no uncertain terms that if it's not collected within 24hrs from outside you'll be getting a local man with a van, to get rid of it.
                            That way it's not theft and it's giving him sufficient notice to collect, I'm sure you want your property empty ready for the next tenant asap.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Movieman View Post
                              I have plenty of fire in me to throw him out physically . Would not be a problem at all
                              Apart from the fact that it's assault, a criminal offence.

                              And ABH if you injure him, a criminal offence.

                              And possibly an illegal eviction, just because he has left doesn't mean that the tenancy has ended yet.
                              There is obviously no possession order here, and you haven't mentioned any agreed/signed surrender, so it's possible/likely that he is still your tenant regardless of if he's living there or if he owes you rent.

                              If he is still a tenant then he has every right to come and go from the property as he wishes; locking him out or physically throwing him out will be an illegal eviction.

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