Can neighbouring 2-bed flat be let for 5 people?

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  • Can neighbouring 2-bed flat be let for 5 people?

    A letting company has rented out a 2 bedroom flat on to a company let.

    My friend owns the property below this flat and my question is are they allowed 5 people in this property. I dont think the rental agent is aware that there are five people in this flat.

    What are my friends options?

  • #2
    Actually I could fit 6 students in a 2 bed flat.

    There is nothing that your friend can do. No law is being broken.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Poppy View Post
      Actually I could fit 6 students in a 2 bed flat.

      .
      Is that like one of those "how many students can fit in a phone box" competitions?
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      • #4
        Yeah! You wanna play?

        6 students in 2 bed property: 2 sleeping in each bedroom plus 2 sleeping in the living room.

        Who needs coffee tables anyway?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Poppy View Post
          Yeah! You wanna play?

          6 students in 2 bed property: 2 sleeping in each bedroom plus 2 sleeping in the living room.

          Who needs coffee tables anyway?
          Sorry Poppy, you are wrong!

          You can easy get 12 students in a two bed flat, 2 each in the bedrooms, 4 in the lounge and 4 sharing the toilet to throw up in!

          Oh, and then the one who falls asleep in the wardrobe, better make that 13 then. ( unlucky for some )

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Poppy View Post
            Actually I could fit 6 students in a 2 bed flat.

            There is nothing that your friend can do. No law is being broken.
            1. Not so. Overcrowding may be unlawful. See s.216 of Housing Act 2004.
            2. Also see s.264 re how to calculate number of persons for Act's purposes. If students constitute people [quaere], this may apply too.
            3. At present, no SIs have yet been made under either section.
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            • #7
              OK. Maybe stating that no law is being broken is lacking detail. For the scenario that craigfer has described, the property is not officially overcrowded.

              The Housing Act 2004 section 216 Overcrowding led me to the Housing Act 1985 Part 10 Overcrowding. Read this if you can be bothered folks Housing Act 1985 Part 10 Overcrowding

              People aged under 1 year is a non-person.
              People aged 1 to 9 (and 364 days) years is counted as half.

              All together now … Aaaaaaahhhhhh!

              I'd be bloody surprised if a local authority actually acted against a situation with 6 tenants in a 2 bed property. They'd be more interested in how many people are stored in the basement.

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              • #8
                No one has mentioned whether the owner of the flat concerned knows how many people are occupying the property?

                My ASTs stipulate how many people may live in any of my properties. More people is more wear and tear. Maybe Poppy doesn't care about the condition of the properties she manages, but she would certainly not be handling mine!

                I am beginning to think I have been extremely lucky in the agent I use!!!
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                • #9
                  be interesting to know what kind of company puts 5 people in a 2 bedroomed place. less likely to be your non people or half people I guess.

                  could be guys (or girls, not to be sexist) on opposing shifts? seen that happen before with oil rig workers.

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                  • #10
                    Or menage-a-troilists?
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by glantisant View Post
                      be interesting to know what kind of company puts 5 people in a 2 bedroomed place. seen that happen before with oil rig workers.
                      And Poles - they often get shafted.

                      Ba dum tish.

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                      • #12
                        That health warning is pretty apt for, I hesitate to say it, 'jokes' like that ')

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                        • #13
                          You seem to forget that you could get 4 in a bed if you top and tail ... oh and none of you mentioned the bath. I know many a student friend who ended up in the bath after a night on the tiles.
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                          • #14
                            So, what's your total then for the competition?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by justaboutsane View Post
                              You seem to forget that you could get 4 in a bed if you top and tail ... oh and none of you mentioned the bath. I know many a student friend who ended up in the bath after a night on the tiles.
                              I didn't think students took baths?

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