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  • MdeB
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    Originally posted by theartfullodger View Post

    Blimey, correction as well, off into Sado-masacism eh?
    Don't knock it unless you've tried it.

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  • jpkeates
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    Berlingogirl I'd hope that anyone in a council leadership team, confronted with a hyper keen housing officer would be mindful of the possible publicity and quietly ignore that particular HMO...

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  • Berlingogirl
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    Originally posted by jpkeates View Post
    The key element is a household.
    If a polyamorous group is one household, they'd be fine.
    How would a group prove they're polyamorous? Or how would a council prove that it wasn't a polyamorous relationship? Would a landlord who accepted a group be fined should they, the LL, not be able to prove the group is polyamorous? How amorous does a group have to be to be classed as polyamorous? Do the members of the group have to just say that it's the case?

    Hmmmmmmm........................... I'm a bit surprised there hasn't been a case highlighted anywhere where there's been an issue.

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  • theartfullodger
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    Yes. 'sfunny how HMO legislation doesn;t apply to council or housing association property. Obviously such landlords would never do any bad thing......

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  • DPT57
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    I knew three people who were in a polyamorous relationship once. Had been for years and it seemed to work for them. They had a council flat so I guess the problem didn't arise, but I've often thought how difficult it would be for them if landlords weren't prepared to let to them on the basis of their relationship, which of course is not covered by equalities legislation.

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  • theartfullodger
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    Originally posted by MdeB View Post

    I'm not sure that a menage a trois counts for HMO designation. But I am happy to be corrected.
    Blimey, correction as well, off into Sado-masacism eh?

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  • jpkeates
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    The key element is a household.
    If a polyamorous group is one household, they'd be fine.

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  • Berlingogirl
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    Originally posted by MdeB View Post

    I'm not sure that a menage a trois counts for HMO designation. But I am happy to be corrected.
    Interesting. Two unrelated people are ok. Two related people plus one is not ok. What about a menage a very many, say 5 ? Looks like that's the way to go to get around HMO regs.

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  • jpkeates
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    Originally posted by flyingfreehold View Post
    ridiculously the only way round it is to say two of the two are in a civil partnership. Or for a practical solution for two individuals to take the tenancy and the other one to be their lodger.
    It would still be an HMO either way.

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  • MdeB
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    Originally posted by AndrewDod View Post

    Or marry them, cohabit/sleep with them. That's what the government wants. Sex.
    I'm not sure that a menage a trois counts for HMO designation. But I am happy to be corrected.

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  • MdeB
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    Originally posted by flyingfreehold View Post
    ridiculously the only way round it is to say two of the two are in a civil partnership. Or for a practical solution for two individuals to take the tenancy and the other one to be their lodger.
    I believe that the lodger exception does not apply to rented property, only to owner-occupiers.

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  • flyingfreehold
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    ridiculously the only way round it is to say two of the two are in a civil partnership. Or for a practical solution for two individuals to take the tenancy and the other one to be their lodger. Ok unless the status of a lodger is no good for the purposes of claiming off the state

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  • AndrewDod
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    Originally posted by MdeB View Post
    Maybe if one of you were to legally adopt the other two?
    Or marry them, cohabit/sleep with them. That's what the government wants. Sex.

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  • MdeB
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    Maybe if one of you were to legally adopt the other two?

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  • DPT57
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    Originally posted by jpkeates View Post
    How do you satisfy the requirement
    "To ensure that all fire escapes are clear of any obstacles and that they are kept in good order, to ensure that all fire safety measures are maintained in good working order and that adequate fire safety measures are in place with regards to the design, structural conditions and number of occupiers in the HMO"
    without a risk assessment?
    I have 3 friends sharing a flat in a 1980s block at the moment. The landings, stairwells and grounds are well maintained by the management company who are very proactive on this sort of thing. I don't know that in practice, that term in the regulations means having to ensure much more than this for a landlord. Fire safety measures are checked at quarterly inspections for all my properties. I may be missing something, but I really don't think its so difficult in a small HMO. My only real fear is that the Council will revise its Additional Licensing Scheme, (currently limited to 4 person HMOs).

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