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  • amy131
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    Yes, they have been in the UK at least 1.5 years but no secure job, seemingly not much savings, moving around a lot in recent months. Their English isn't great, which I think is likely a bit of a barrier with regards to getting work. The last lodger moved to the UK from an EU country for better pay.

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  • Hudson01
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    What strikes me with all this is how absolutely transient her life looks, no security at all, like a modern day refugee.

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  • amy131
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    I have moved on, holding deposit returned, asked them not to send me any more messages, they seem to have stopped. Now advertising again.
    Interestingly their landlord just posted a room advert on facebook, but its for one of the smaller rooms in the house available immediately at just £30 pcm more than mine, states 4 others there currently. If the landlord had no problems with this tenant they would have moved to that room surely. I had been given a story but I don't think it was the full one and I don't think either this girl or her current landlord were being honest with me.

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  • Hudson01
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    Amy131 - Just walk away from this one, you are looking into it far too much, as i have said above, this is your home and you do not have to justify yourself at all, as ' Grange Hill ' once said in the 80's...... just say no !!!

    I shy away from tenants with a story..... please do the same or you are in for another sad and sorry episode.

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  • MdeB
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    Originally posted by amy131 View Post
    This person is pleading with me to change my mind, making me feel bad.
    I would suggest reading "When I say no, I feel guilty".

    Worked for me.

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  • amy131
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    I think the current landlord wants this one out asap. He informed me she was sharing a room and the other person needed to leave, after just 2 months. He has informed me also he has a new couple moving in on 30th. If she was a good tenant then I would have expected the current landlord to have allowed this girl to get a new roommate. Before the current landlord mentioned a new couple moving in I assumed they were renting out again to just one person since they don't have a HMO licence and there are 3 others besides this new couple. Perhaps the male 'friend' she visited my place with was a boyfriend and may get moved in when I leave if I let to her. I feel like there are things I am not being told.

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  • amy131
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    Hi, DPT57 I am very aware of what you say above. I hence give lodgers all of the documents that I give tenants and I protect deposits with the DPS and give lodgers the prescribed information. The only difference is the type of agreement, although I am aware that when I move the lodgers become tenants regardless of the agreement. The house where I am currently residing had an EICR last year, recent gas safety certificate and EPC, which lodgers get emailed copies of, and I do right to rent checks. When this house was renovated I took into consideration LA standards for licensable HMOs. There has never been any more than 4 people in this property, but it should be licensable if needed in the future.
    Its partly due to knowing that the new lodger will become a tenant that I am being cautious.
    Berlingogirl I have had the following email from this person I have now declined, its not true they have no friends in the area, as they lived with friends for a bit before moving into the place where they are now, where they have only been a few months. They came with a friend when viewing my place. Also if she now only has a few days left it makes me question why she was asking to move into my place next week and not this week. I just don't feel I can trust them. I was getting the same type of emotional blackmail from the problem lodger who recently left.

    'I only have a few days left and I have nowhere to move, I literally stay on the street now, I was so happy to have found a place to live, it is difficult for me to find another house in a few days, I wish I had family here or friends in [ ] but I don’t have and I can't ask anyone for help. I am a calm, respectful, clean person, I pay the rent on time. I wish you could change your mind even for a few months if you want but please I really have no place to stay now'

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  • DPT57
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    Originally posted by amy131 View Post
    I guess one worry is if she moves in someone into her room to share after I move out of this house.
    You do understand that if you move out of the house, the person is no longer likely to be a lodger? If she has exclusive possession then she is likely to acquire full tenancy rights, but presumably without you having served all the required documents or protected her deposit.

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  • Hudson01
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    Ditto the above, your rents may need to increase to weed out some of the undesirables.

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  • Berlingogirl
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    Don't feel bad - they didn't feel bad about letting you down. Stick with your story that your circumstances have changed. There are other rooms available on spare room.

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  • amy131
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    I now have a case of deja vu. This person is pleading with me to change my mind, making me feel bad. This happened to me with a prior lodger, who I ended up giving notice to after a few months due to their behaviours, I told them no after he tried to negotiate rent, which was already low for the area, and he pleaded with me to reconsider him, which I did, and I later regretted that. Lesson learnt.
    I definitely need to review rents and how I am marketing rooms now. I have had very good lodgers and tenants for almost 5 years until late last year.

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  • amy131
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    I have informed them I am no longer comfortable with going ahead with this and am withdrawing the offer of the room rental. No agreement was signed, I do that on the moving in day.
    They have a week to find somewhere else, and there are many rooms available immediately currently. Their current landlord takes their own risk in letting out a room before it has become vacant. My rents are below market rate for a high standard of accommodation. I think I perhaps need to put up the rent a bit to get the right people. Rents have gone up a lot locally over the past year and more recently my rooms have been attracting people looking for cheaper rent for various reasons.

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  • Jon66
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    Yes, I second the above. "Sorry my circumstances have changed unexpectedly and I can no longer accommodate you" usually works!

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  • Hudson01
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    You are not their carer or parent, if you feel they are wrong for you then call a stop to it, they are moving into your HOME, not some room as part of a HMO which you have no connection, even on a normal AST i am super careful but in my own home !!!!

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  • theartfullodger
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    Just say no.

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