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    #16
    45002,

    It was previous owner of above flat (who lived in it). I do not know if the numbers match but shall esquire. Thank you.

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      #17
      Originally posted by nukecad View Post
      Just my opinion.

      Scottish Power accounts department hasn't got a clue about anything but direct debits and smart meters and couldn't organise ceilidh in a distillery.
      I got that impression when I spoke to them!

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        #18
        Common parts lighting should be maintained lighting, ie with a battery back up

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          #19
          jpucng62,

          Thank you

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            #20
            Originally posted by Section20z View Post
            What's the problem, if they are not going to make any changes or cut you off. Just leave it in previous tenant's name . Bailiffs or CCJ's can't be entered in your name unless you have the account so not your liabilty.
            That's not true of utility contracts.
            They can be created by someone using the utility, so liability is transferred automatically.
            When I post, I am expressing an opinion - feel free to disagree, I have been wrong before.
            Please don't act on my suggestions without checking with a grown-up (ideally some kind of expert).

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              #21
              Its also not very nice to be constantly on the receiving end of a utility company's bullying, so it needs to be sorted.

              It seems a bit odd that no-one thought to open at least one of the red bills coming through - that may have picked up the problem earlier! (Yes I know its against the law to open someone else's mail but in this case I think acceptable).

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                #22
                Since the last occupant moved out, one of the two people in the building have been liable for the bill(s).

                I still don't understand how the liability extends to the OP.
                When I post, I am expressing an opinion - feel free to disagree, I have been wrong before.
                Please don't act on my suggestions without checking with a grown-up (ideally some kind of expert).

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by jpkeates View Post
                  Since the last occupant moved out, one of the two people in the building have been liable for the bill(s).

                  I still don't understand how the liability extends to the OP.
                  I agree - but leaving tenants to sort it hasn’t worked so far!

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by jpucng62 View Post

                    I agree - but leaving tenants to sort it hasn’t worked so far!
                    But its not either or. I can see an argument that says that the tenants started using the light and therefore incurred costs for the duration of their tenure. Likewise in-between tenancies, the OP may have become liable for that period if the light was switched on even just once. However, I can't see how anyone can be held liable for either historic debt or the periods when someone else was liable. I think the OP should probably take legal advice, but I can't think that Scottish Power really has any case against him for this entire debt.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by DPT57 View Post

                      I think the OP should probably take legal advice
                      Probably cost more than the bill and doesn't sort the problem out!

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                        #26
                        The OP doesn't seem to have a problem.
                        The problematic meter isn't in their property and that's where the liability is determined.

                        They may decide not to continue providing free communal lighting at their expense, but that's up to the two parties to work out between them.

                        If the other property owner is asking for help paying the old debt, that's something the OP can decide to help with or not.

                        There's no doubt that the power has been consumed - there's a meter with a light connected to it.
                        No one could have expected that power to be free.
                        When I post, I am expressing an opinion - feel free to disagree, I have been wrong before.
                        Please don't act on my suggestions without checking with a grown-up (ideally some kind of expert).

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by jpkeates View Post
                          The OP doesn't seem to have a problem.
                          The problematic meter isn't in their property and that's where the liability is determined.
                          Doesn't that depend on who is responsible for the communal areas? At the moment, we have no idea if that includes the OP or not.

                          I don't think that there is any way the tenant could be held liable for the communal areas.

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                            #28
                            It might come down to who should be paying to light the communal areas.
                            But, currently, there's an electricity meter in a flat that isn't the OPs running up a bill.

                            Let's start there.
                            When I post, I am expressing an opinion - feel free to disagree, I have been wrong before.
                            Please don't act on my suggestions without checking with a grown-up (ideally some kind of expert).

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                              #29
                              assuming that the meter was installed in the flat, and not in the common area, I can't see that was stated anywhere.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Ted.E.Bear View Post
                                assuming that the meter was installed in the flat, and not in the common area, I can't see that was stated anywhere.
                                Good point - maybe I've misunderstood.
                                When I post, I am expressing an opinion - feel free to disagree, I have been wrong before.
                                Please don't act on my suggestions without checking with a grown-up (ideally some kind of expert).

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