What to do if Tenants not paying rent due to corona virus?

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    #16
    Just send the s21 FFS, after you supply the other things to make it valid.

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      #17
      Originally posted by Walnut88 View Post
      Thanks so much. My tenants are from HongKong, which one of them is UK passport. So not sure how much they can get from the government and local authority.
      Probably nothing. They may be able to get help from your local authority.
      But they stopped communicating and not reading my message. In the case, is the S8 only sought and having solicitor involved
      You don't need to involve a solicitor, but if you're not sure what you're doing it can help.
      There are also specialist eviction services (some advertise in this site's directory.

      However, the minimum period for any notice is now three months, and you'd need a court to enforce the action, and they're currently shut.
      If you do want to serve s8 notice, I'd wait until the tenant owes two month's rent before serving it.
      I am also worrying they will not leave my place even after the contract ended 31 Aug 2020....
      They are perfectly entitled to stay (paying rent or not). They may have no choice, depending on how this crisis changes over time.

      This isn't normal times, and it's best to ride everything out.
      Tenants who have no savings and have no income can't pay rent.

      That's horrible for everyone, but it is simply reality in some cases.
      Even if they sign up for benefits (and are able to), the money takes weeks to come through.
      If they find new work, it will be a while before they're paid (and rent is less of a priority than food).


      When I post, I am expressing an opinion - feel free to disagree, I have been wrong before.
      Please don't act on my suggestions without checking with a grown-up (ideally some kind of expert).

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        #18
        Thanks a lot! Hope we will all quickly go through it. Though the way my tenants doing is just transfer their financials stress into me. If they are unable to pay, they can ask parent’s financial support or move out and stay with friends. Why I am a stranger need take the burden of their miserable.

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          #19
          The financial stress is caused by a virus - it's no one's fault and the burden is shared by everyone.

          Not communicating doesn't help, but tenants can be scared of what might happen.
          When I post, I am expressing an opinion - feel free to disagree, I have been wrong before.
          Please don't act on my suggestions without checking with a grown-up (ideally some kind of expert).

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            #20
            Thanks for your advice. I also made a mistake. I protected the tenant deposit late; prescribed information has been shared with them. I can give them some compensation. But if the tenants use this threaten me saying would take me to court because of the late protection and they don’t leave my place at the end of contract this Aug. How shall I do? Is this kind of court order will affect my credit or I will not pass the background check when changing jobs?

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              #21
              It is heard in the civil (not criminal) courts, so it might affect your credit rating but for most jobs, shouldn't affect job applications unless you work in the finance industry.

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                #22
                Originally posted by jpkeates View Post
                The how to rent guide has to be the right version - contemporary with the start of the tenancy.
                Or maybe not.

                The regulations are badly written, so it could mean the version in effect when it is provided.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by jpkeates View Post
                  The financial stress is caused by a virus
                  No, it isn't.

                  It is caused by the Government actions to reduce the strain on the NHS due to the virus.

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                    #24
                    lanthth2000,

                    I was in same situation for missing documents and the solicitor included the documents with the notice. The local authority did not contest it

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by MdeB View Post
                      It is caused by the Government actions to reduce the strain on the NHS due to the virus.
                      People keep asserting that.

                      The government is responding to a virus.
                      Arguably, it is doing less than other nations on the planet.
                      Almost every nation is responding broadly the same way.
                      It would be irresponsible for the government to do anything that did not mitigate the number of its citizens who might die.

                      Blaming the economic stress on the government's actions is like blaming the fire brigade for the water damage after a fire.
                      The problem is the fire, not how it was put out.
                      When I post, I am expressing an opinion - feel free to disagree, I have been wrong before.
                      Please don't act on my suggestions without checking with a grown-up (ideally some kind of expert).

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Walnut88 View Post

                        Thanks so much. My tenants are from HongKong, which one of them is UK passport. So not sure how much they can get from the government and local authority. I am willing to offer help in this tough time, suggesting 50% deferral. But they stopped communicating and not reading my message. In the case, is the S8 only sought and having solicitor involved? I am also worrying they will not leave my place even after the contract ended 31 Aug 2020....
                        You are very much on the same boat with me. I am also willing to offer help to the tenants but they insisted that they got No money and cannot pay anything until the corona virus is over. I do think that they are trying to exploit the situation. I am also thinking about issuing S8. It is good to have solicitor involved, but it is quite expensive (the local one near where I live charge something like £200/hour).

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by jpkeates View Post
                          Blaming the economic stress on the government's actions is like blaming the fire brigade for the water damage after a fire.
                          The problem is the fire, not how it was put out.
                          But the water damage to the lower floors is not caused by the fire on the top floor but by the response to that fire.

                          The government did not have to take the steps they did to combat the virus.

                          They could have said "we will do nothing, allow the virus to rip through the population, allocate ventilators on a first-come-first served- basis (or, as Guernsey did, say "no one over 55 will get use of a ventilator"), let people die, keep life going as normal for those without serious symptoms, and come out the other side with a (hopefully) resistant population."

                          The vast majority of people would then probably not experience financial stress.

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by MdeB View Post
                            They could have said "we will do nothing, allow the virus to rip through the population, allocate ventilators on a first-come-first served- basis (or, as Guernsey did, say "no one over 55 will get use of a ventilator"), let people die, keep life going as normal for those without serious symptoms, and come out the other side with a (hopefully) resistant population."
                            No, they couldn't do that.

                            The government has a duty to its people as well as its economy.
                            It can't just "let people die".

                            Doctors have a duty to the sick.
                            Each nation has a duty to its neighbours.

                            It's no a coincidence that the only countries not following an almost identical path are nations led my maniacs: Brazil, Hungary and, possibly, the USA.

                            In the same way that it's never going to be knowable how many people would have died anyway, we'll never know how many businesses would have gone either.

                            When I post, I am expressing an opinion - feel free to disagree, I have been wrong before.
                            Please don't act on my suggestions without checking with a grown-up (ideally some kind of expert).

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                              #29
                              OP it's really important to keep the lines of communication open. You need to talk with your tenant and find out how this has affected them - i.e. ask for proof from an employer getting rid of them etc. Also, you could ask for bank statements. I think it's important to try and quality who needs help and who can go to the govt for assistance for the 80%

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by jpkeates View Post

                                If you do want to serve s8 notice, I'd wait until the tenant owes two month's rent before serving it.

                                Why with S8 notice, it is better to wait for 2 months? I was told by others that after 2 weeks you can issue S8 notice. I am a bit confused here.

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