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    Landlords other tenant assaulted me, what should our landlord be doing?

    Meeting with Landlord this week what should I be expecting the landlord to do.




    We live in a large complex, with allocated spaces and plenty of allocated guest parking and all rented by same landlord.

    Tennant next door has been difficult since moved in 1.5yr ago. Regularly knocks on door screaming and puts notes through my door and on car. She wants to park in my numbered allocated parking (lord knows why she doesn’t want to park in hers!) very Occasionally I park in the guest parking directly outside my house, when I do she knocks on my door and starts screaming at me that I have parked in HER space, I honestly haven’t, it’s guest parking which is available to everyone, the landlord has confirmed this is fine in writing and I double checked my allocated space is correct. The screaming and shouting is a regular occurrence since she moved in. She also puts letters through my door and has messaged me on Facebook, I refused the friend add and I give the letters to landlord and give letters to landlord who suggest I continue to ignore her. I never reply or approach her. I smile and say hello if we pass. She has been off work due to depression and anxiety and I think the landlord hoped she will get better and her behaviour will improve. So far nothing has been done.




    It’s been getting more regular and this time I filmed it, put my phone on record before I answered the door. I asked her to stop shouting, to speak to landlord, i asked her to leave, I said you are upsetting please stop shouting at side my door, i told her I was filming but that didn’t stop her, I tried to close my door (gently not slamming in her face or anything ) she put her foot in the way to stop me, continued shouting. Eventually she stepped away moving foot and seemed to stop shouting I slowly closed the door, She charged at the door pushing it open at speed and it hit/ bounced back at me. It’s all on video. I’m left with a bruised eyebrow/ forehead where the door hit me. I have a police number they’ve have reported it under common Assault and I have photos of bruise and video of it happening. Although I asked the police not to do anything yet as meeting landlord this week. She’s now started moving my garden furniture on my patio. It’s a communal garden but the patio outside my door belongs to me.




    The landlord in every other way seems a really good landlord. I don’t want to have to move me and my son but it’s been going on for two years, it’s escalating and I’ve now been left with a bruise.




    What reasonably should I be expecting from the landlord to do when we meet this week?

    #2
    Expect LL to do nothing about a neighbour dispute, and he should not get involved.
    You have reprted her to the Police for common assault.

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      #3
      Leasehold flats will normally have a clause covering such behaviour and so the freeholder might assist in sending her a warning or your landlord could send her a polite note but you run the risk of antagonising her further.
      If you live in some London Boroughs with licensing regulations then good behaviour enforcement is a responsibility of the Landlord and you should indeed expect him to assist, he can't really want her driving his good tenants away.
      Many authorities also have mediation services so try that or asking advice of your local councillor.
      I sympathise and wish you luck in resolving the situation.

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        #4
        You need to ask if has sent her an eviction notice. Is she just a nuisance to your or other people?

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          #5
          1. You should not have told the police to hold off.
            If she gets a criminal conviction, then the LL has grounds to evict
          2. Is this a block of flats that the bought all, or was it built by a build-to-let company?
            The approach to LL is probably different, depending.
          3. Landlords have no legal duty to become involved with neighbour disputes.
            However a reasonable LL would want reasonable tenants in who do not drive away other paying customers.
          My suggestions for your meeting:
          1. Talk calmly to LL, explaining what has been going on.
          2. In that explanation include "when X happened I felt Y", i.e. include the effect of the behaviour on you and your family.
          3. Ask LL if other tenants have reported similar incidents from that tenant.
            Do not seek information on who might have made such reports; that may be privileged under Data Protection law.
          4. Ask LL what he can/might/is planning to do about the situation.
          5. Ask LL about any Selective Licencing scheme there might be in your area, and if there is one, then ask about LL duties under that scheme for your situation.
          6. DO discuss the recent assault incident, as it appears that she is putting you in physical danger

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            #6
            This is a neighbour dispute: Follow CaB advice here...

            https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/sc...hbour-dispute/

            I doubt landlord will sort it: Were I the landlord I try to avoid getting involved.

            Hope things get better, good luck!
            I am legally unqualified: If you need to rely on advice check it with a suitable authority - eg a solicitor specialising in landlord/tenant law...

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              #7
              Originally posted by theartfullodger View Post
              I doubt landlord will sort it: Were I the landlord I try to avoid getting involved.
              !
              It is a bit different when both tenants have the same landlord (imo).

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                #8
                The LL would seek not to get involved, unless other tenants are also complaining or the tenant at fault is not paying rent.
                You should press full charges against her, you've already seen how unreasonable her behaviour is; it's not going to get better unless some drastic action is taken to get her to calm down. If she has a criminal record, you have a better chance of getting her evicted.

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                  #9
                  This is between 2 adults and one has reported other to Police for assault.
                  LL may be constrained by GDPR etc from revealing if either T has been served Notice on either T.

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                    #10
                    If landlord was a housing association or local authority they would be obliged to act and I think any other responsible landlord should attempt to resolve this situation.

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                      #11
                      Local authorities and housing associations are able to do things that private landlords are not able to do.
                      When I post, I am expressing an opinion - feel free to disagree, I have been wrong before.
                      Please don't act on my suggestions without checking with a grown-up (ideally some kind of expert).

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                        #12
                        When acting as landlords, the only reason they can do more is because they draft their tenancy agreements suitably.

                        I think the reason that selective licensing includes such conditions is that the council believe that landlords should be taking action. One of the main bases on which a case is made for selective licensing is and increase in anti-social behaviour as a result of landlords failing to control their tenants.

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                          #13
                          C'mon, local authorities can issue Community Protection Orders to deal with Anti Social behaviour.
                          Landlords can't do that.

                          The problem with including anti-social behaviour conditions into selective licensing is that landlords can't affect their tenants' behaviour.
                          They can only evict them (with s21, see current government plans) which simply moves the problem and doesn't address it.


                          When I post, I am expressing an opinion - feel free to disagree, I have been wrong before.
                          Please don't act on my suggestions without checking with a grown-up (ideally some kind of expert).

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by jpkeates View Post
                            C'mon, local authorities can issue Community Protection Orders to deal with Anti Social behaviour.
                            Landlords can't do that.
                            Those are not issued acting as landlords, and they can be used against people in the PRS. In fact, I would assume they were mainly used against those, as I would expect council tenants to be dealt with in house.

                            Also, a lot of the ASB is low level stuff that can be mitigated by the landlord, although at a cost to them, e.g. removing sofas from front gardens, repairing boundary walls, to prevent vehicles being driven over the pavement or overhanging, etc.

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                              #15
                              Thank you so much everyone. Just an update, landlord not particularly interested in assault seems to think it’s solely about parking. Not really seeing the importance of it. In the mean time it turns out she’s very behind with rent and I think (won’t believe it until she’s actually gone) has given her one months notice. In the mean time the contact from her increased, knocking on door (which I’ve ignored) she moved my garden table and chairs directly in front of door this evening so it couldn’t it be opened and has put another letter through my door tonight. She says she’s had the police here today complaining about me. She says my behaviour is “erratic and not safe” I’m lost for words. You would think she would stop knocking on my door and writing me letters if that was true. I completely avoid her and never reply to letters.

                              i’m going to up date police tomorrow and ask what they can do.

                              hopefully she’s gone soon

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