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    Looking for some advice. We rent a property from a landlord which is managed by an agent.
    Once we moved in, we discovered several very large boxes of the landlord's possessions stored in the only cupboard.
    Due to this, we have ironing boards, hoovers, etc floating around in the living room as there is nowhere to store them.
    It is quite annoying and we want the items removed as they are in the way of our normal use of the property.
    There is nothing in the tenancy agreement regarding them storing their possessions nor restricting access to any area.

    I wrote to the agent 4 times politely requesting the landlord either collects their possessions or asks us to move them into a storage unit at their cost, otherwise we would remove the items.
    These requests were completely ignored for 4 weeks. I then wrote to both the agent and the landlord giving them 7 days notice that we would remove the items, which we intend to do if there is no response.

    I feel we have been both patient and reasonable.
    Where do we stand legally on this if we end up disposing of the possessions?

    Thank you.

    Q1 – Where is the rented property located :- England
    Q2 – What type of Tenancy Agreement (TA) is this :- Multi-tenant
    Q3 – What date did current TA start :- 2019
    Q4 – How long was initial fixed term :- 12 months
    Q5 – Does the TA state that rent is due :- monthly
    Q6 – Did the TA require a tenant damage deposit to be paid? :- Yes
    Q7 – N/A
    Q8 – Does the landlord live in the same property as the tenant? :- No

    Is any part of the property (eg cupboard) excluded from the tenancy??

    Is there an inventory & if so are the items you mention included in it or not??

    Write, again, to agent AND COPY LANDLORD! -keep copy...
    I am legally unqualified: If you need to rely on advice check it with a suitable authority - eg a solicitor specialising in landlord/tenant law...


      No part of the property is excluded in the tenancy.
      Yes there is an inventory, The items are not on the inventory.

      I have written today to both the agent and the landlord, giving 7 days notice.


        Sounds like a very stupid landlord.

        Many are stupid: (Ditto most other groups..)
        I am legally unqualified: If you need to rely on advice check it with a suitable authority - eg a solicitor specialising in landlord/tenant law...


          Is this a joint tenancy - in other words do you each have your own tenancy agreement - or are you all signatories on the same agreement for the same duration and jointly responsible for a total amount of rent? Do you have an allocated room?


            The landlord does appear to be getting cheap (i.e free) storage at your expense, i think you have acted totally correctly and in a fair manner, the landlord is taking the mickey.


              Yes but that presumes the nature of the tenancy. The OP described it as multi-tenant, and hasn't reverted to us to clarify.

              Second the OP initially referred to "boxes of the landlords stuff", but then later to "ironing boards, hoovers etc". There is no law that says that inventory has to be listed on an inventory, or that there has to be an inventory at all - though it creates difficulties for the landlord if not as to the status of the stuff if not obvious. I certainly have some VERY fully furnished houses and it would be impractical to list every item on the inventory - there is a matter of trust to some extent.


                I think they mean that they can't store their own ironing board etc in the cupboard, as it is already full.

                As a clerk I would have pictured and listed the bigger items and added a note, if I had been told that they would NOT be part of the inventory. I would alos have notified the agent as I left the property. That's fairly standard practice, I think.

                Andrew, I'd probably give you kittens, as I would list everything... I even count cheap cutlery. Sad and makes for some very, very long inventories


                  I think the OP's done a runner.

                  Unless we know if there are any common areas, it's going to be hard to respond any further.
                  When I post, I am expressing an opinion - feel free to disagree, I have been wrong before.
                  Please don't act on my suggestions without checking with a grown-up (ideally some kind of expert).


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