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    I'm a relatively inexperienced landlord (have had one rental flat for four years) and am currently in the process of buying a leasehold terraced house which is converted into three flats. The flats are still all on the one lease, they are fully self contained and have seperate gas and electric suplies. I have satisfied myself that they don't need a HMO licencing (I asked the council). Do more experienced landlords think I need to check anything else that I may not have thought of? I am in the process of checking there are three water supplies rather than just the one. The conversion never got planning permission (it was done in the 80s) and I think it probably didn't have building regs (solicitor is checking) so is there something I should do to check the fire safety before I proceed with the purchase? Any advice from more experienced members would be appreciated. Thanks.
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    #2
    I think it would be a good idea again to contact your local authority and ask what they are setting as HMO standards. Also enquire if they plan to run additional or selctive licensing in the not to distant future and finally, the hMO property, although not lincesable, will still qualify to be inspected under the Housing Health and Safety Rating System (HHSRS).

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      #3
      Originally posted by arusha
      ... am currently in the process of buying a leasehold terraced house which is converted into three flats. The flats are still all on the one lease ...
      If that’s true, who owns the freehold?

      Or

      Do you mean you are buying a freehold house which is converted into three flats without leases?

      Please clarify.

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        #4
        It's a leasehold house in Sheffield. I believe Leasehold houses aren't so common in other parts of the country but they have plenty of them in Sheffield. The person who owns the freehold also owns it for next door. My plan in the long term is to split the lease so that I can sell each flat individually.

        Thanks for the advice red40. I already did ask about additional and selective licencing and the council said there are currently no plans for any.
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          #5
          I would be very wary about buying unless I had everything in writing from the council. Also your lender, if there is one, might want to look a bit deeper.
          The advice I give should not be construed as a definitive answer, and is without prejudice or liability. You are advised to consult a specialist solicitor or other person of equal legal standing.

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            #6
            My lender is mortgage express and they have given me permission to rent them as three seperate units. They are one of very few lenders who would do it.
            I asked all my questions to the council by email so I have email evidence. Do you think that is sufficient? The council did specifically say that there were currently no plans for additional or selective licencing so I know it could change in the future. I know some councils have said converted flats need licences.
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              #7
              Have Private Rented standards been out to see the property? I ask as a landlord in the same area with similar properties to the one you're describing all of which have all been classed as HMOs by Sheffield CC.

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                #8
                Arusha if you have electronic evidence as an email dont delete it as you can use it, if you wish to take the matter further and appeal to the RPT.

                Just have a look at other local authority websites and you will see what I mean about what HMO requires a license

                Also have look here might explain things a little better

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                  #9
                  http://www.sheffield.gov.uk/in-your-...ple-occupation

                  Sorry it's a long link.

                  Have you read all the stuff here Arusha? Sheffield CC are helpful in my experience and if in doubt I would ask them to visit the property with you so they can advise on the requirements rather than relying on questions in an e-mail. Seeing a property will give them a better idea of the actual layout/situation etc imho

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                    #10
                    Thanks for the links red40 and muse I'll have a detailed read later today. They look like they confirm what I was thinking and what the council told me which is that this property is a HMO but doesn't need a licence.

                    Muse when you say that a landlord in the area had a similar property and was told by the council it was a HMO do you mean they were told it needs a licence or just that it's a HMO? If it is the latter then that is fine I would expect that. If it is the former then I should be worried as it contradicts my understanding.

                    When you say get the council to come and look at the property do you mean to advise on requirements to get a HMO licence or to check it is in an acceptable state to be rented? I like the idea of getting them out to check the safety of the property so that I would have peace of mind that it is safe for tenants. Do they come out to any property if you ask them to? I don't think I need a HMO licence but I would welcome advice on making sure it is safe.

                    An extra point about this property: The top flat has an attic room which has no stairs (has a ladder) so currently is just classed as loft space as it would be unsafe for anyone to sleep there. I therefore will advertise the top flat as one bedroomed until I have time to get a proper staircase fitted when it will become two bedroomed. This is common sense to me but I worry that there may be other more subtle similar things that I would miss myself so I like the idea of getting the council out to check it.
                    I'm trying to raise awareness of Myotonic Dystrophy, Pre-implantation Genetic Diagnosis (PGD) and In vitro fertilisation (IVF). Follow my PGD blog and please pass it on to any one you know who has an interest in PGD or IVF.

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